Genderlock reminder to SE

[Seraphor]

you could do that with any of the races and have a clear winner tbh doesnt mean we should delete the less popular gender

Nobody should be 'deleting' anything. but when you're making them to begin with, resources are finite and choices have to be made.

In that poll, with no context, I would have voted against genderlocking, because in an ideal world there would be no need for it.
And I do think they should implement the other genders at some point down the road when they're able to.

However, I think they made the right choice now to release female Viera and male Hrothgar.
Two races are better than one. Had they only released Viera, they'd probably never be able to justify adding in the Hrothgar at a later date. but by adding in one of each, they've ignited demand for the other genders, which they'll be pressured into following through with.

[Nora_of_Mira]

i got you fam

4711 total votes, 2713 opposed, so that's 58%, that would make sense.

active player count (https://ffxivcensus.com/) is apparently 237,561.

So, roughly 1.1% of the playerbase is really opposed.

[Seraphor]

4711 total votes, 2713 opposed, so that's 58%, that would make sense.

active player count (https://ffxivcensus.com/) is apparently 237,561.

So, roughly 1.1% of the playerbase is really opposed.

That's not how polls work.
4,700 responses is enough to get a fair snapshot of a larger population, and extrapolate averages from, providing the platform wasn't a biased one.

The biggest issue with the poll is the limited, loaded question.

[Nora_of_Mira]

That's not how polls work.
4,700 responses is enough to get a fair snapshot of a larger population, and extrapolate averages from, providing the platform wasn't a biased one.

The biggest issue with the poll is the limited, loaded question.

While that is true, the OP said "to remind SE that a majority of their playerbase", which is clearly false. There is no way to think this poll is unbiased simply due to the fact that people that already care about the genderlock are seeking these types of things out via reddit/official forums.

4,700 is an impressive poll turnout, I'll admit to that, but I feel its heavily biased. an unbiased poll would be something like a pop-up survey when you log into the game, which we cannot do.

[Soraki-Muppe]

That's not how polls work.
4,700 responses is enough to get a fair snapshot of a larger population, and extrapolate averages from, providing the platform wasn't a biased one.

The biggest issue with the poll is the limited, loaded question.

Thing is, those that do care about this would see that poll in time, those of us that do not care one way or the other would not. That in and of itself would make sure the pool of people voting would be much more likely to hold one specific opinion, how much that would move the result is impossible to say, the only thing we know is that 4711 players found it worth their time to find and answer this poll.
Personally I do not care one way or another, but I do believe that those complaining about it have every right to do so since they are part of the community.

[Sigiria]

i got you fam

That's not how polls work.
4,700 responses is enough to get a fair snapshot of a larger population, and extrapolate averages from, providing the platform wasn't a biased one.

The biggest issue with the poll is the limited, loaded question.

That poll is biased though
First of all it can be taken as many time as you want so it's not a very reliable metric
and people who don't care about the issue or the majority of the playerbase that never check the forum didn't gave their opinion.

It's easy to see that it is biased by looking at that answer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=795686653
It says almost 50% of the people that took the poll would change their character to either male Viera or female Hrothgar. If that poll was a reliable enough snapshot of a bigger playerbase it would mean with the introduction of these 2 race/gender combo suddenly half of the playerbase would be male Viera or female Hrothgar while every other 12 race/gender combos would make for the other half of the playerbase...

[Reynhart]

4,700 responses is enough to get a fair snapshot of a larger population, and extrapolate averages from, providing the platform wasn't a biased one.

Only if the 4700 voices are taken randomly into the whole playerbase. People on this forum are not random, since they're already "those that are active on the forums", thus not representing "those that aren't".

[Mezzoforte]

That's not how polls work.
4,700 responses is enough to get a fair snapshot of a larger population, and extrapolate averages from, providing the platform wasn't a biased one.

The biggest issue with the poll is the limited, loaded question.

4700 responses is not particularly enough to make a "fair snapshot" of the situation depending on how big you are trying to extrapolate your sample onto. In this case it isn't large enough. Also, the sample is already biased meaning it has no relevance for extrapolation. This poll is utilized in such a way as to primarily target people who have a vested interest in it and not the actual wide range of people that play. In every scenario it isn't good data.

[kidalutz]

i got you fam

So... 14 million players... and 2500 or so disagree? Bring better data.

This isn't by any means meant as an insult. But before going about claiming that a Majority of the Playerbase wants for this to happen it should actually be a majority of the playerbase in the corresponding data this ensures that the argument for such a thing is a strong movement aimed towards the change and can provide irrefutable proof that such a thing is in demand.

You got to keep in mind while things are different in America because of Labor Laws In Japan pouring over these kinds of things and making them happen in game is what is reffered to as a Death march. These Programmers will spend days and weeks at thier office often sleeping on the floor next to thier computer to make sure these things happen if they are indeed demanded by a majority. That means time away from families and real life things in order to see it to fruition.

[Wynn_Storm]

So... 14 million players... and 2500 or so disagree? Bring better data.

2500 isn't even 1% of the playerbase.

We need a bigger official poll.