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  1. #2191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    This thread is huge by EN forum standards when you consider the only posts on the 1st page that have more responses are generally the screenshot dump threads. If we make a second one the same people would eventually roll in and argue the same points. Might as well see how big and loud this one can get.
    Oh, I mostly keep checking for the guilty pleasure and wish I brought popcorn when sudenly it gains like 2-3 pages overnight. Half-hoping/expecting it to still be in the first page by the time Fan Fest comes around

    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Plot twist, hrothgar is the highlander viera and was "accidentally" revealed in the french codes as foreshadow/tease.
    Apologies to the "bara cat" crowd, but that would make me literally rofl if it happened.
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  2. #2192
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    I mean at the point that you're saying petitions are meaningless, threads in general are meaningless. This thread has a lot of pages, sure. But I would argue a lot of the posts either are for the supposed implementation of a different race or are neutral. And really, it's the same... some amount of people that are posting.
    You are free to go through and count the for's and against's, I'd say theres more for, and with more likes, than those neutral or against

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    Oh, I mostly keep checking for the guilty pleasure and wish I brought popcorn when sudenly it gains like 2-3 pages overnight. Half-hoping/expecting it to still be in the first page by the time Fan Fest comes around
    It'll inevitably be bumped up come FF even it it isnt lol
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  3. #2193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    You are free to go through and count the for's and against's, I'd say theres more for, and with more likes, than those neutral or against
    yea, easily. The majority of people want them from the looks of this thread. There's just been a few vocal people who really don't want them for whatever reason. :v
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  4. #2194
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    Fayt Azuresky
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    You are free to go through and count the for's and against's, I'd say theres more for, and with more likes, than those neutral or against
    Lol of course, people who are worried they aren't getting their male Viera are for more likely to seek out a thread about it and proliferate said viewpoint. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_chamber_(media)
    I'll stop trying though. People are definitely not going to be swayed until March. I was really just tired of seeing posts where people talk in extremes and talk about being "entitled" to things, as well as give false info. Good luck to you guys who want male Viera.
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  5. #2195
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    Yes please

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  6. #2196
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    Lol of course, people who are worried they aren't getting their male Viera are for more likely to seek out a thread about it and proliferate said viewpoint. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_chamber_(media)
    I'll stop trying though. People are definitely not going to be swayed until March. I was really just tired of seeing posts where people talk in extremes and talk about being "entitled" to things, as well as give false info. Good luck to you guys who want male Viera.

    Well, the only way to make SE aware we want them is to make noise about it. If we don't get them you're going to be hearing about them till we do. If people wouldn't shut up about the bunny outfit you can imagine the uproar genderlocked Viera will cause. If this thread is already irritating you, you've got a big storm coming in the future. :v The gays take male Viera very seriously. Yoshi is gonna have to deal with a bunch of angry homosexuals every fanfest until the end of time if he goofed this up.
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  7. #2197
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    Lol of course, people who are worried they aren't getting their male Viera are for more likely to seek out a thread about it and proliferate said viewpoint. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_chamber_(media)
    I'll stop trying though. People are definitely not going to be swayed until March. I was really just tired of seeing posts where people talk in extremes and talk about being "entitled" to things, as well as give false info. Good luck to you guys who want male Viera.
    Thing is the thread started out as a Is ffxiv going to gender lock a race? just after the keynote it grew due to SE/Yoshi's actions or lack of sparking more concerns than was intended no doubt, it focused on male Viera so much was due to Viera being the only focus of a confirmed race once we got the Hrothgar 'bug' we had a lot more different opinions on how SE are going to handle fan fest with what will be revealed. Now i can only speak for myself here but the reason i have been as vocal as i have is not due to anyone else within this thread but down to me personally i am very anti gender locking on something like races and jobs this thread has the most posts i have ever put into a thread before or probably after purely due to the fact we may see gender locking in the near future, the only person i outright had arguments with were because i couldn't understand how gender locking such big things had any positive side to it for a game like ffxiv post ARR. No reasonable thread should be looking to be an echo chamber and this thread definitely didn't start out that way still doesn't feel that way.
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  8. #2198
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    Well, the only way to make SE aware we want them is to make noise about it. If we don't get them you're going to be hearing about them till we do. If people wouldn't shut up about the bunny outfit you can imagine the uproar genderlocked Viera will cause. If this thread is already irritating you, you've got a big storm coming in the future. :v The gays take male Viera very seriously. Yoshi is gonna have to deal with a bunch of angry homosexuals every fanfest until the end of time if he goofed this up.
    I believe it, and I support you voicing your opinion. It's just the way people are doing it that I have to post responses to. For example, posting that Hrothgar (which we've ever seen before!) would just be a Roe with long hair? Ridiculous. And yet that got support somehow. And really it's not irritating. I just feel like it's a good use of my time to point out these things when I see them and sigh. If "the gays" continue to voice their opinions, I'm sure Yoshi will notice, we will see how long it takes to make any difference. I disagree with it being a goof-up though, because really it's just a matter of perspective.
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  9. #2199
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    Oh yeah, I feel that being super aggressive about it - either way, isn't the best way to go about it.

    If we want something we have to be polite and talk about the pros and cons of it. And make it known that this is wanted of our devs.

    If these do end up gender locked I will most certainly complain, but it a way that is thought out complaint rather than screeching.


    @Cicatriz
    Apologies for before! I have read your messages before and they were thought out and not so much 'that guy' - I just wish that we could veer away from posts that rile each other and are just a well thought out discussion. Of course, if people are going out of their way to be an ass then that's no fun - not that you were. So I'll take back the 'party pooper' - though anyone who does that in the future just to rile folks up is most certainly the pooper of the parties.
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  10. #2200
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    Lol of course, people who are worried they aren't getting their male Viera are for more likely to seek out a thread about it and proliferate said viewpoint. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_chamber_(media)
    I'll stop trying though. People are definitely not going to be swayed until March. I was really just tired of seeing posts where people talk in extremes and talk about being "entitled" to things, as well as give false info. Good luck to you guys who want male Viera.
    Ok...but then why suggest a petition then? That people posting in this thread are leaning towards supporting Viera males when this thread started with the ability/inability to play as Viera males makes sense. Would a request thread massively change it’s replies or status as an echo chamber? ^^;


    I can't speak for others but there theres no real swaying me on this topic. A good portion (if not the bulk of) of my OF posts have been arguing about lock and favoritisms in relation to glamours, hairstyles, and the like. That I might be missing out on a playable race taht I've been looking forward to since I joined the game is worth bumping an "echo chamber" over.
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