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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Can't say I'm in agreement with the desire to look like a child. Maybe if they were a subrace - but I'm certainly going to wrinkle my nose at the idea of the males looking so drastically different and stuck in some sort of juvenile state that people will sexualise. Seeing as Yoshida is clearly against the idea of them being 'Cute' you can sadly kiss the whole 'looks like a child' idea out of the window.

    If he's already uncomfortable with the idea of men just being 'rabbits' in the first place, then I can assure you that child bunny man is even more 'far out'. Honestly would disturb the heck out of me seeing them wearing 'sexy clothes'. No thanks. Shota is gross.
    To add remember every piece of gear would have to be adjusted to fit the new male race whatever it is including the bunny suit, summer swimsuit, subligars and undergarments now i don't know about you but if i had to do that for a child like male whose proportions are very similar to a young teen i would be very uncomfortable doing that (if i didn't outright refuse) and if the male devs were uncomfortable doing the bunny suit for grown male characters and an awkward potato i doubt they would add it and go through that uncomfortableness again but worse
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    Girls would probably like shota bunnies more than men would. :v At least Japanese girls. I mean, they let them romance Ken in P3P after all. I personally wouldn't want them though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    To add remember every piece of gear would have to be adjusted to fit the new male race whatever it is including the bunny suit, summer swimsuit, subligars and undergarments now i don't know about you but if i had to do that for a child like male whose proportions are very similar to a young teen i would be very uncomfortable doing that (if i didn't outright refuse) and if the male devs were uncomfortable doing the bunny suit for grown male characters and an awkward potato i doubt they would add it and go through that uncomfortableness again but worse
    Umm have you seen Lalafell?
    They are literal babies.

    And it’s creepy when people make them naked.

    Also miqote women and aura women kinda look like teen girls and they made slutty outfits for them.

    People are always more comfortable with sexualizing young women. But that shouldn’t take away of my fantasy of a link like character saving the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artyport View Post
    Umm have you seen Lalafell?
    They are literal babies.

    And it’s creepy when people make them naked.

    Also miqote women and aura women kinda look like teen girls and they made slutty outfits for them.

    People are always more comfortable with sexualizing young women. But that shouldn’t take away of my fantasy of a link like character saving the world.
    Link to me doesn't look like a child. He looks like a young man - in BotW anyway. If he looks like a child; then yeah - no sexualise. Shudder.

    Lala's have no sexual characteristics - they don't enter my mind for anything that is considered 'sexual' they're like toys or minions that are controlled. Anyone who looks at a lala in 'that' kind of manner is someone I'm not going to get along with.
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    Last edited by Gwenorai; 03-10-2019 at 06:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artyport View Post
    People are always more comfortable with sexualizing young women. But that shouldn’t take away of my fantasy of a link like character saving the world.
    Moving away from the whole sexualisation stuff (which is easily one reason why I feel SE shouldn't make any more playable childlike characters), let's go for something more lore focused. Toon/Young Link isn't an army general/lieutenant, which is something you can kinda become in FFXIV with GC Squadrons. I feel that no one, even NPC's, would like their superior to be a naive/know-it-all/prodigy teenager (I hated when Alphinaud became the leader of the Crystal Braves, but loved it when it exploded in his face).

    There are other reasons why I don't want younger than 18 year old's to be playable in this game, but those are personal "I hate children protagonist" feelings... though I'll give Young/Toon Link a pass because at least he doesn't talk.
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    It depends on the game, some of the Links do look really young. Like Wind Waker Link or Young Link in OoT. They're babies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artyport View Post
    Umm have you seen Lalafell?
    They are literal babies.

    And it’s creepy when people make them naked.

    Also miqote women and aura women kinda look like teen girls and they made slutty outfits for them.

    People are always more comfortable with sexualizing young women. But that shouldn’t take away of my fantasy of a link like character saving the world.
    Yep creeped out by that too thankfully most players i come across don't dress their lalafel characters with the above equipment or naked still the fact its possible still creepy in my book but with female miqo'te and female au ra they are not defaulted to young teen look i see them in their low 20s look that might be me though its young looking but avoids the creepy zone in my view.

    I actually find it easier to sexulise young men 18+(as i don't clasify you as a man or woman till your 18yrs old) than a woman the same age but that is me though.

    Your more than welcome to ask for a link like playable character just know when your are asking(highly likely indirectly) for that your asking a dev to have to put this type of model:



    in this type of outfit:


    I find it creepy with lalas i find it just as creepy with young elezen looking race and sorry to say i'd rather they avoid having to do the above :S

    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    It depends on the game, some of the Links do look really young. Like Wind Waker Link or Young Link in OoT. They're babies.
    Link has so many different looks when link looks younger they tend to play up his mischievous side more and make him more stoic the older he looks
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    It's just a skinny short guy. You can see what you described at any beach.

    Hrothgar are going to be ugly. Believe it
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    LOL are people seriously implying alphinaud is a shota? I'm an artist and he is NOT proportioned like a child. Especially compared to viera concept art we've already seen. But we're talking about a game where there are toddlers running around in sexualized outfits so the point is moot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by username1234 View Post
    LOL are people seriously implying alphinaud is a shota? I'm an artist and he is NOT proportioned like a child. Especially compared to viera concept art we've already seen. But we're talking about a game where there are toddlers running around in sexualized outfits so the point is moot.

    Alphinaud is 16 years old. His body is that of a teenager; if you drew sexual art of him or a blooming lala, guess what - you're going to get your art flagged. I remember when one of the big FF discords got deleted by discord because someone posted 18+ lala art.

    Some folks do NOT want to see a teenager that is clearly under the age of 18 or -looks like they're underage - wearing some of the very revealing outfits that this game has to offer. Lalas yet again have zero sexual characteristics; they have no chest, no 'backside' no 'hips' - they are potatoes.

    Would freak me the heck out to see someone RPing in such a manner on such a build, just like it would freak me out to see someone on a lala doing that. I shouldn't be subjected to it, nor should I have to view something that in my eyes looks seriously 'inappropriate' and/or seriously 'wrong' in my culture. Unless the outfits for such a body style are covered and modest, I don't want to see it. Call me selfish, sure - I'll take it, hard 'heck no' on that one chief.

    Do I like seeing scantly clad cat girls or au'ra? No, but I can deal with that. I can't, however, deal with a teenager/child build dressed like that. I just did one of the DRK quests very recently with Rielle, someone who shares that body type. That face is clearly that of a child, nopity nope. xD This is why I'm even more 'NOPE' at the mere idea of it.


    I do not want to see someone like this in a bathing suit. Especially not a 'bunny girl' who is already sexualised and certainly not a 'bunny boy'. Viera already has 'playboy bunny' slapped on it.
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    Last edited by Gwenorai; 03-10-2019 at 08:15 AM.

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