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    Quote Originally Posted by Masha_Awandah View Post
    In other words, it wasn't time travel but long distance teleportation, despite the use of time in the incantation. As long as both circle remain intact, it's posible to go back and forth between the two places,
    So it creates a gateway folding space between to points, but not points in time.

    the words used in the calling a time travel hint

    Quote Originally Posted by fay2 View Post
    -The Scions that have been called their souls have traveled and vanished but their souls have not returned to the live stream.
    That adds to and expands that point however, the scions souls traveled Krile was able to track them moving then vanished and if she would think to go to the location they traveled to they are likely to find a gateway circle to ?somewhere?.

    So again
    the Scions are not dead. Their souls have not returned to the live stream
    Their souls are not in their body's
    Their souls are not on the source.
    based on the spell used to do this their souls have through a gateway.

    That gateways other side isn't on the source as their souls aren't on the source that leaves the most likely option another shard still.

    So how could a the gateway circles connect the source and a shard? that ones a easy answer the Warriors of darkness made them one here while they where here on the source, and the gates other sides there on the 1st before they left the 1st shard. They may have planned to use it to return to the 1st, however they got a better option in "Midealyn".


    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Actually it's a "fact" that the entire story is stuck in a time bubble and "no time" has passed since the beginning of the game. It's still only five years since the Calamity, no matter how much time logically should have passed.
    Yes everyone starts their story and its turning 5 years after the 7th calamity with them playing time passes for their character

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That said, there still seems to be time "between" events - it just somehow doesn't count for anything.

    It's best not to think to hard about it.
    No lets just think about that a little, because what I was pointing out is that I hope your not widening the goal posts for "time travel" to time passed in a normal manor in one direction = time travel

    Time has passed in game while follow the MSQ.

    so while we are on that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    it seems unlikely he would be involved in this story again without time travel being a factor, as it's implied he won't leave the tower for a long time yet.
    Implied by G'raha Tia maybe, however Biggs and Wedge had other ideas {to save 1000words an image}



    So if this leak is true about crystal tower.
    biggs and wedges prognostication will hold true.

    I really hope we get Biggs bellowing wake up princess at G'raha tia waking him up, and his 1st waking image as he opens his eyes Biggs and wedge doing a pucker up emot at him lol


    crystal tower side note that also brings Noah back to mind and also makes geomancers the likely healer for the expansion. Well if it comes with the return of stone skin sure I fine with that,
    and im left waiting for the next expansion for dancer


    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Edit your post to get around the 3000 character limit. Cut the entire text, just type "editing..." or something similar (requires 10 characters of text) and post that, then immediately edit and paste your actual post back in.
    thanks useful to know ------------{editing}


    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Conversely, ask how they're handling Unukalhai lately - or rather, how they're not. A native of the Thirteenth shard, blessed with the Echo or something like it, official member of the Scions as of patch 3.5? He should be pretty relevant around about now... but he's in an optional questline and so instead he's still alone in the back room of the Rising Stones (and possibly, time-wise, still in 3.5), completely unconcerned or unaware that most of his new friends have fallen into inexplicable comas.

    Then again, those new friends seem to have forgotten he exists.
    Yup, he's been left out of the picture either forgotten or intended for us to forget about,
    He would make for a big spoiler if the dev.s intent is to blind side most people of shard travel.

    Again It would just be another MSQ locking side quest like the 1st 3 hard mode primals back in ARR where made a clear condition to continue MSQ later on.
    If you get to the keeper of the lake now you have to have them done now to progress.



    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    "Poorly" is subjective. Yes, there are paradoxes - things that shouldn't have happened at all without time travel being involved - but for lack of a better word, they're neat paradoxes. A self-sustaining, stable time loop that doesn't break anything. It just happens. No single piece of it is left actively going around the loop repeatedly, everyone and everything has an entrance and exit from the story. (Except possibly the cat, but that seems to be a special exception. I need to map that out.)?
    I'll stick with Matoya's view of it all the same {this calls for an image}


    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I much prefer this kind of time-travel story to one where events can be altered. That is how we get 'messy' paradoxes - change the past, prevent the bad thing from happening... but now how do you know about the thing you needed to prevent?
    repeating history / perceived repeating history
    prognostication of events
    fortune telling

    all come to mind
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    Last edited by fay2; 02-25-2019 at 08:39 PM.