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    Quote Originally Posted by fay2 View Post
    All that can really be said is the robed character is they hold their left hand like a Miqo'te male.
    That is quite a stretch alone. I guess it was coupled with the leak?
    The leak gave me the idea, but I do think it looks like him. Not just the pose, but they seem to have the same face - as much as you can see of it on the robed figure. Same nose shape, similar lips and chin (which could be down to the exact angle of the shot) and can possibly see the Miqo'te face markings on the edge of the shadow around his eyes. At least it matches the shape, and doesn't make sense as an actual shadow contour on the face.

    The colour scheme of the robes also matches G'raha's red/black/white outfit, and while it isn't solid proof, characters are often given consistent colour schemes across multiple costumes. Plus they look like they could be Allagan costume style, which would fit with him being essentially "last of the Allagans" now.



    Quote Originally Posted by fay2 View Post
    Indeed it's not definite, it remains a hint. Which is how I presentenced it as, but you seem to have miss read/quoted me as saying proof definite for some reason?
    Sorry, but every time I've seen you mention it, you phrase it like it's a definite fact that it's Arbert's voice.

    (#7) hints wise here is some: -The Calling from the warrior of darkness.
    (#31)Do you have a different option for the who is doing the calling using Arbert's voice?
    (#34) So you think a 3rd party is using Arbert's voice to do the calling ?
    Clearly I don't think it's Arbert's voice doing the calling, so I could only assume that you are fixed on that being a fact - otherwise it wouldn't make sense to ask me to explain how that factors into my idea, or keep asking why someone else is "using Arbert's voice" rather than it simply being someone else's voice.

    And I don't regard it a "hint" at dimensional travel while it's still only a possibility that it's Arbert. You can say "if the voice is meant to be Arbert, then that would be a hint at dimensional travel", but you can't at this point say it's a hint - it just has the potential to be one.

    A matter of semantics perhaps, but I feel like something has to be a solid fact itself before it can be said it's a hint that something else will happen.

    Yoshida wore a Bugs Bunny shirt to Fanfest - that's a fact, and once it happened that was a hint that Viera were coming. But if he'd walked out on stage wearing a jacket and said "guess what picture is on my shirt", that wouldn't itself be a hint. You could make an educated guess that it's something bunny-related (or maybe guns or dancing), but it's not a hint until he reveals what the picture actually is.



    Likewise I don't directly consider it a hint that there'll be time travel, just because I think the guy on the poster looks like G'raha. It's just a possibility that fits neatly with several other possibilities that I already had in mind before the poster existed.

    As I recall, the first suggestions of time travel were from the game itself, or something close to it - the Caller's words being taken from a time-travel incantation in FF Tactics, the 5.0 trailer's suggestion that "years have come and gone", that past events must be undone and that "history must be unwritten".

    Reading back through some earlier conversations I had to re-find that Tactics link, I'm reminded that I only had time travel in mind at that point, and only started wondering about dimensional travel when we'd seen Thancred with Minfilia in the 5.0 trailer.

    I think maybe Future Alphinaud or Future Unukalhai were my best picks at that point, but (as I said earlier) there was also the leak mentioning the Crystal Tower, which - whether accurate or not - got me thinking about G'raha as another plausible identity for the voice. Because I already had time travel in mind, that was part of my reasoning - it seems unlikely he would be involved in this story again without time travel being a factor, as it's implied he won't leave the tower for a long time yet. But because I was already thinking about a time-travel plot, it seemed a possibility to keep that fact and still bring him back into the story.

    And it's only after I had those those ideas already in mind that they revealed the poster with maybe-G'raha on it.

    If it's just me seeing a resemblance that isn't intended, maybe this is just confirmation bias, wanting to see my "wild theory" actually turn out to be the correct answer.

    But if it is meant to be him, then it's new evidence that strengthens the support for a theory I already had. And I still think his reappearance as an MSQ character (say, if you said out of the blue "G'raha's coming back into the story, how could you make that work?") would be most plausibly supported by using the pre-established possibility of time travel to get around the issue of him originating in an optional quest.
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