Gender locked race?

[xbahax92]

Add on top all the other things we know like Yoshi-P's feelings on male Viera being cute.. I'm guessing males are not "cute small things forced into exile".

We also know male Miqo'te went through his supervision and yet they're not really super cute, nor super feminine. Its the players choice how they're designing their OWN characters. All that SE has to do, is give different face types and be neutral about it.
Male Miqo'te do definetly not look overly cute nor feminine. Male Viera can get the same treatment.

[Shougun]

We also know male Miqo'te went through his supervision and yet they're not really super cute, nor super feminine. Its the players choice how they're designing their OWN characters. All that SE has to do, is give different face types and be neutral about it.
Male Miqo'te do definetly not look overly cute nor feminine. Male Viera can get the same treatment.

Not sure if you're adding to or agreeing or disagreeing with me lol. I'm going to guess adding to me. I don't disagree with you that they could (and SHOULD) add options to a race such that they encompass more than just one element (for diversity of choice).

Just keeping in mind you're responding to me in the context that male viera look like Viera children and don't go past any substantial puberty, and then those basically children are kicked out of the home to protect the forest. . lol. That I was mentioning Yoshi-P's statement that Viera Male appeared to be cute and he wasn't crazy for that because having Viera Male appear to be children (at least on average, and not as some option) would be counter to his desire which means he not only had a change of heart but a very very large change of heart.

I am not opposed to being able to create a small Viera male through options, or a cute non-masculine male. I'm talking about the standard appearance and what it would "likely" be based off the lore and what female Viera look like.

In part why I think clans here could be so great. Imagine a Viera clan that for whatever reason had very low impact puberty transformations, both male and female - this clan stuck together and is separate to the Fran Viera clan (doesn't have to be both genders but seems like a way to make them different than Fran). Maybe could have fun with the lore too like the Garleans are checking out what causes the rapid onset from pre to post puberty transformations of the Viera (let's say it happens over a few months unlike humans).. So through their science tests they create a small Viera race, stunted as they've extracted some part of their being - genetically stunted Viera part of an experiment to create standardized genetically enhanced Garlean soldiers. New Garlean enemy type, new Viera type. Or whatever, they could be bunnies that live in caves near the dwarves lol (small to fit in tunnels easily).

I just find that the culture of Viera, that we know, does not jive with the suggestion that the males standard appearance will be that of a 13 year old Viera child (their puberty being non-visual). I am not against sliders and options that might counter the "standard look" though (allowing people muscular tall Viera females or low muscle short Viera males)! My opinion at least :3.

[wereotter]

Creating dimorphic clans is a lot of extra development, especially if you consider the lion-like race (assuming the leak is accurate) with male and female counterparts for each, that's basically the equivalent work of designing three races. There's a reason that the Au Ra races are (mostly) just palette swaps of each other, that's because it creates less design work. As is the only dimorphic race we have right now are the hyur, and when you consider the highlanders were male only to start with, that makes more sense. Going into 2.0 they didn't design a dimorphic race, they just added a female option to the highlanders and classified them both as hyur.

Creating a tall and a short version of viera isn't impossible, but you do have to consider in how much additional work that would have been for the development team in determining how likely that option is when it's implemented. Based off the trailer we've seen, I'm willing to bet we just have one clan that's darker skinned and one clan that's lighter skinned rather than a tall clan and a short one. But I could be proven wrong once we get all the expansion information.

[Shougun]

I'm willing to bet we just have one clan that's darker skinned and one clan that's lighter skinned rather than a tall clan and a short one. But I could be proven wrong once we get all the expansion information.

Seems most likely, agreed. Especially since the dialog used to describe Viera Clans is almost identical to the one describing tactics clans from long ago - including the names of the clans themselves. With all our other races having a lot of minor differences (besides something like Hyur), and the lore matching lore that institutes its mostly color difference... Most likely its not going to be a grand difference.

I was just wishing there were more stronger clan differences :3.

[Melichoir]

Creating dimorphic clans is a lot of extra development, especially if you consider the lion-like race (assuming the leak is accurate) with male and female counterparts for each, that's basically the equivalent work of designing three races. There's a reason that the Au Ra races are (mostly) just palette swaps of each other, that's because it creates less design work. As is the only dimorphic race we have right now are the hyur, and when you consider the highlanders were male only to start with, that makes more sense. Going into 2.0 they didn't design a dimorphic race, they just added a female option to the highlanders and classified them both as hyur.

Creating a tall and a short version of viera isn't impossible, but you do have to consider in how much additional work that would have been for the development team in determining how likely that option is when it's implemented. Based off the trailer we've seen, I'm willing to bet we just have one clan that's darker skinned and one clan that's lighter skinned rather than a tall clan and a short one. But I could be proven wrong once we get all the expansion information.

While i think its likely this will be the case, I also think its likely people will find that disappointing. Thats been a consistent criticism I think of many of the races. Heck, even when it comes to AuRa, the biggest difference is scale/horn color and those facets are locked (which is also unfortunate.) I think people want some distinguishing features between the clans and not just skin recolors with very slight facial changes. But as you said, its probably most likely going to be just that. Oh well.

[Nestama]

I have a feeling that Viera males will be larger than females, as the lore for them seems to be based off the hare. Hares are bigger than rabbits and tend to live in solitude, unless they want/need to mate.

Male Viera's are gonna be a tricky thing for SE to make, because I'm sure they know that depending on which design they go for, there'll be some part/chunk of the Viera fanbase who will be disappointed with what they go for. If it's feminine, then the group wanting them to be masculine (Highlander levels) will be disappointed (and vice versa). If it's childlike, then those wanting adult hares will be disappointed.

I can only hope that Hrothgars will be Roegadyn 2.0... or better yet, Galka 3.0.

[Roda]

I have a feeling that Viera males will be larger than females, as the lore for them seems to be based off the hare. Hares are bigger than rabbits and tend to live in solitude, unless they want/need to mate.

Hares, an animal where the females are larger than males?

[wereotter]

Hares, an animal where the females are larger than males?

True, female rabbits are larger than males. Though if we're drawing a direct comparison to rabbits, then the females should be the ones the rest of us have to be afraid of, not the males. Males rabbits tend to live apart from other males, but are also much friendlier than their female counterparts and make better pets while females tend to be more aggressive (I speak as someone who actually had rabbits growing up. The males were always very sweet, the females would always bite and claw at me)

Considering the male viera are the more aggressive of the two based on what lore we know, we can't say that they also won't be larger just because female rabbits are larger than males.

[Daralii]

Seems most likely, agreed. Especially since the dialog used to describe Viera Clans is almost identical to the one describing tactics clans from long ago - including the names of the clans themselves. With all our other races having a lot of minor differences (besides something like Hyur), and the lore matching lore that institutes its mostly color difference... Most likely its not going to be a grand difference.

I was just wishing there were more stronger clan differences :3.

Weren't the Rava and Veena established in Revenant Wings?

[WhiteArchmage]

Rava and Veena come from XII (maybe mentioned in TA? It's been a while), Feol come from RW