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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    i would appreciate either on of them (ronsolike race or bunnies), but by all means, i don't want an half-assed race (genderlocking), genderlocking is one of the stupidest things to introduce and it's what has allways kept me away from asian mmorpgs
    i don't want a "ronso" only male race without a female counterpart and if they really pull this halfassed genderlocking thing, i can assure y'all there will be some big backlash from both sides (not only male viera supporters)

    and this backwards thinking of females allways have to be "nice and gentle" and males "bulky and scary" also grinds my gears
    What about viera do you interpret as nice and gentle? Their entire gimmick is that they're superhuman guerrilla fighters and marksmen that render almost half of Dalmasca impossible to colonize because they tear apart anyone that tries to enter and doesn't respect the Green Word.
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    Dyslexius Nervar
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    What about viera do you interpret as nice and gentle? Their entire gimmick is that they're superhuman guerrilla fighters and marksmen that render almost half of Dalmasca impossible to colonize because they tear apart anyone that tries to enter and doesn't respect the Green Word.
    This here. Yeah, male viera's lore has them as cold-blooded killers. They kill on sight and often don't bother to even ask why you're there. You could be lost and they wouldn't care. This adds to the whole 'why no one outside of Viera and the dead' has seen a male. I'm certain plenty of outsiders have seen the male, but sadly they're all dead. Or so scared they don't wish to relay.

    But that brings up the question of how we know this lore in the first place. At least one female must have shared some of the information. And one male must have shared the information on just how they operate when they're outside of the villages and going through those sacred rites to become a master of the wood.
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    The only gentle male Viera would be a Viera that was taken away from the wood by their mother and never went through the brutal training. The training brutalises them. It, of course, would be great storytelling to hear the story of how one male who earned the title of master earned back his 'humanity' and was no longer just a killer who exist only to fight and breed. Or of course, be one that escaped the watchful eye of their 'Master' and ran away., etc etc
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    Last edited by Gwenorai; 02-13-2019 at 11:39 PM.

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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    What about viera do you interpret as nice and gentle? Their entire gimmick is that they're superhuman guerrilla fighters and marksmen that render almost half of Dalmasca impossible to colonize because they tear apart anyone that tries to enter and doesn't respect the Green Word.
    Indeed - and yet somehow their reveal trailer involved standing around in cute poses and doing flirty emotes while wearing clothing that would never ever suggest “fierce jungle warrior” to someone who hasn’t read the lore.
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    Aristotle Avinroo
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    Faerie
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    At Stormblood's launch I thought for sure Lupin was a sign we were getting a playable beast race in the future. When it was announced Viera would be the last race I felt pretty bummed out about it... then they didn't mention male Viera at all during the 'Fest, which was super suspicious. Hrothgar has rekindled my hopes. I'm excited that the possibility is back on the table and I can't wait to see what it is.
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    Arty Highbrush
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    I want a proper beast race like the charr in GW2. Oh and pls give hammer class.
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    Jets Down
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    This is my stance on it I will wait for Tokyo fan fest for announcement depending what is revealed will depend if i am vocal about it. I am a hard no against gender locking races as i find this can spiral to gender locking jobs i will be as vocal as i can if they gender lock races no matter which way they do it. if they reveal both genders i will be content even if it isn't what i personally like as i got what i truly wanted which was no gender locked races
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    Taykawai's Avatar
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    Mimi Nyan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    This is my stance on it I will wait for Tokyo fan fest for announcement depending what is revealed will depend if i am vocal about it. I am a hard no against gender locking races as i find this can spiral to gender locking jobs i will be as vocal as i can if they gender lock races no matter which way they do it. if they reveal both genders i will be content even if it isn't what i personally like as i got what i truly wanted which was no gender locked races
    The discord leaker said that we will be surprised with dancer, maybe because its gender locked already? XD
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    Cledwyn Llywellyn
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Indeed - and yet somehow their reveal trailer involved standing around in cute poses and doing flirty emotes while wearing clothing that would never ever suggest “fierce jungle warrior” to someone who hasn’t read the lore.
    Yeah I felt the same way after seeing the trailer. I’m one of the most Viera obsessed people out there but the trailer was strangely jarring even to me. Seemed way too girly and cutesy, totally opposite to Fran’s stoic nature, which many of us were expecting to see embodied in the Viera. I hope the emotes aren’t just female Au Ra over again, I sometimes feel my soul leaving my body whenever I see how OTT girly they are. Although I do main a Female Roegadyn so I’m biased there!
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    Wonder Noblesse
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Imagine being gay as hell and someone assumes you're homophobic.

    I simply just don't care to play a feminine male race.
    Yeah it’s not a homophobia thing it’s more like a bear4bear thing that subgroup has going on. I rarely see them date outside of that body type. It’s a bear culture thing that I don’t see changing anytime soon. Tbh though a lot of them do see anything outside of their clique as twinks, so I hope we get both the big cat race males and normal looking Viera males to please both sides.
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    Last edited by redcurrant18; 02-14-2019 at 01:44 AM.

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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasminou View Post
    For au ra, in this example, whether the player character is male or female, the output will always be l'Ao ra so there is no need to check the gender. But if the output were pretty/handsome au ra, it would have been distinguished into le bel ao ra / la belle ao ra.

    However, even if Viera and the other race are genderlocked, we could imagine that in the future, they will not. Therefore, putting the code to distinguish the output now is a good way to prevent any bug later after the implementation of their other gender.
    Ah- I see now. I understood that the l'Ao Ra was a grammatical thing, but I can wrap my brain around it fully now with some sleep since I made the assumption they were checking [gender] [race] rather than other way around (for some reason). I think it's still odd though, that they wouldn't just put one if there weren't two genders or plans to make the other. Copy and pasting code for two genders when there really is going to be just one technically can be done, but it seems awful sloppy.

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    While I'm more worried now, I'm still somewhat hoping/wishing we get more/better news come JP Fan Fest... in the worst case, that the devs are aware of and ready for the backlash for months or years.
    My galaxy brain idea is that this localization thing was on purpose to try and quell the anger, if only slightly. It did work a little for me. Not much though.

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    Another thought I just had, is JP is the worst place to announce a bestial race. JP loves their cute races more than NA and EU. Maybe they will be more polite in person and on the forums, but JP twitter/ 2ch is absolutely vicious. I cannot imagine it will go over well.

    I can hold onto whatever little scraps I can to try to keep my sinking heart afloat. :C
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    Last edited by Tsumdere; 02-14-2019 at 02:06 AM.

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