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    Karl0217's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    You're this close to getting it....This is why I often use words such as likely, possibly, potentially, maybe. etc. etc. Instead of hard language that confirms this or that, I don't say the devs will do X because of Y, only that they may do X because of Y.
    I got news for you, just because you include the adjectives "likely, possibly, potentially, maybe" in your claims doesn't magically make them not claims. Nor does it provide you with a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card about having to back them up. That is not how debates work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    I've also directed to plenty of evidence that supports my assumptions as well.
    Then you should have no problem providing evidence to back up your assumption that the gender-locks didn't damage the 1.0 release or them removing the gender-locks for the 2.0 release had nothing to do with them knowing how poorly the gender locks were received.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    Bringing up that FFXIV exists in the Chinese and Korean market...might not appeal to western ones? Yes. So in what way is that assumption unfounded?
    You are deflecting the issue here. You made a specific claim that you think gender-locked content would expand the market shares in China/Korea and when pressed as to why you think this is you respond with an incredibly general and vague statement about the Chinese/Korean market being different. Why am I not surprised? And why do you feel the need to write a novel without actually saying anything new?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    An assumption based on the fact that they didn't rectify the genderlocks in their prior MMO, FFXI.
    That was Hiromichi Tanaka's decision and when he tried to import the same model into XIV it crashed and burned. It was one of the reasons he was replaced with Naoki Yoshida who immediately undid the gender-locks in XIV. So you want to base your assumptions on what Yoshida's predecessor did as opposed to Yoshida's actions, i.e. removing the gender locks?

    Do you seriously think basing an assumption on what Person A will do by observing what person B did while ignoring what A did the minute they took over from B ain't just making an unfounded assumption?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    You don't get to make an assertion and then try to get around having to back it up when called for proof and try to goad me into providing proof of a counter-claim. Who's the one being weasely now?
    I am not the one going around making claims and then saying because I included the adjectives "likely, possibly, potentially, maybe" I don't have to defend them or provide evidence to back them up while demanding everybody else provide evidence for their statements. That would be you.

    Nor am I the guy writing a book where three sentences would suffice in order obfuscate just how little meat there is to my statements. That would also be you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    There would certainly be a backlash for this decision, but I'd be hard pressed to ever consider it major, or even damaging to the game.
    That is nothing more than your personal subjective opinion and considering you think basing your assumptions on what Naoki Yoshida will do on what Hiromichi Tanaka did is valid reasoning I doubt you are anywhere in ballpark when it comes to accuracy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    Oh good, it's not just me who has words put into their mouth by you. They never said they significantly reworked coding for helmets and footgear, in fact their exact statement was: "We're having to make some changes to systems, such as how helmets work."
    Given we don't know the full extent of what changes these are, we cannot say if they're significantly changed or not.
    Are you seriously going to sit there and argue semantics after acknowledging that yes, they are still making coding changes accommodate the Viera gear wise? Any coding change to a system that impacts every player characters gear and the gear of every NPC in the game is by its very nature significant. It is telling that all the models they showcased wore Fran's outfit and no other outfit, which heavily implies the changes to the other gear's coding isn't finished yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    However Yoshida has had no problem in the past telling his audience that he cannot show something because it is not ready. He even did exactly that just prior to the Viera announcement about the 8-man raid.
    And when asked about the male Viera he specifically said there was another Fan Fest in Tokyo, which is the kind of thing a developer would say if he had something to show but couldn't show it just yet because he didn't have a stable build of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    And we know absolutely nothing about why we are heading into the Greatwood. So all of it assumptions....If we're only involved in one part of the woods, they could easily write in something happening that draws the male viera to a different part we will never go to.
    So pretty much your response to lore that looks like it setting up a possible hostile confrontation between us and the Viera is another "well maybe they all got lured away before we got there...."
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    Last edited by Karl0217; 02-18-2019 at 07:22 AM.