Gender locked race?

[Shippuu]

When asked about male Viera, Yoshida said we'd get info about them at the Tokyo Fanfest. If the answer were "no, we're not getting them" it wouldn't make any sense to have a special reveal about that, let alone a teaser about an upcoming reveal. The only way his comment makes sense is if we're getting both genders, but the reveal videos are being released separately.

That probably indicates the males weren't ready yet when they were preparing the first reveal, and perhaps could suggest that the males and females are quite different from each other. But that we're getting both in some fashion has essentially been confirmed. The only thing we still don't know is what the males look like.

(Personally, I'm hoping for something close to the old concept art that shows them quite similar in build to the females, just slightly shorter. Ronso-like would be cool, too. If they end up with the little cute version, well, I guess there's other people who might like that, even if I'm not one of them.)

Except that talking about/confirming no male viera still falls under the umbrella of "information about male viera at tokyo fanfest." It absolutely does make sense to hold off on revealing something like a genderlocked race so they can spend more time explaining the why's and cushion the backlash with even bigger reveals, such as the new 8 man raid, the full trailer, the next job of which there has been no hints etc.

The thing that doesn't make sense is if they just needed more work he could have and would have said so, he has never had any problem in the past (and even at that very same fanfest) telling the players they can't show something because it's not quite ready yet.

He has shown an incredible reluctance to even state they're coming which is very telling, only avoiding the questions or copping out and deferring to the next fanfest.

[Gwenorai]

He has shown an incredible reluctance to even state they're coming which is very telling, only avoiding the questions or copping out and deferring to the next fanfest.

My argument for this is simple, Matsuno/Masuno? wasn't there at Paris. The Viera are his creation; that's why he wrote the lore for the 24man regarding Viera, all of it. From the males to the females. In my opinion it wasn't Yoshida's place to make that announcement, it would be Matsuno* who would be doing the announcement. As for why Matsuno didn't announce the females, simple, everyone knows about them already. We've seen the lore, we've seen how they look - we already saw Fran in the 24man. Viera males, if they will be shown - who knows at this point - are completely new. And the design is more than likely to come from Matsuno than it is Yoshida. And it's more than likely going to be announced where it all started, Japan.

We could all argue to the cows come home that Matsuno was the originally the one never added them in the first place, and my argument is - he did add them by simply giving us the lore for them. He set the base lore regarding them; there was just no reason for them to be shown. Not even in FF12 due to the fact we had Fran in the party when we entered the jungle - Fran being the sister of the Matriarch of the main clan. They had zero reasons to shoot, but more than likely off screen they were watching.

Shrugs;
If they're not added and we get 'bara khajjit' and thus have to play as Tony Maiq the Liar- I mean Tiger, I mean lion, then so be it. I'd question why they did it, I'd complain, I'd still play the game but my excitement for the expansion will diminish - I won't cancel my preorder but it will ruin a bit of it for me. I don't expect people to get that, why this would bother me so - but it would, and I honestly shouldn't have to explain that - no one should really. We already have a feline race - there was no need for another. There are plenty of other animals they could have taken inspiration of to make a new male-only race, but I digress...

I feel like people who wanted Blu mage got shafted and have a right to complain. I also think that those who wish to play as male Viera should also be concerned even more so due to the condition Blu is in. Neither group should be going 'well we have it worse', as right now Blu Mages certainly have the crappy end of the stick. But damn, you also have to realise that the only reason a lot of us are threating is that we dont want to end up in the same boat.

[Divinehero]

have ppl forgotten miqo'te used to be female only and it eventually allowed both genders

[Taykawai]

Except that talking about/confirming no male viera still falls under the umbrella of "information about male viera at tokyo fanfest." It absolutely does make sense to hold off on revealing something like a genderlocked race so they can spend more time explaining the why's and cushion the backlash with even bigger reveals, such as the new 8 man raid, the full trailer, the next job of which there has been no hints etc.

The thing that doesn't make sense is if they just needed more work he could have and would have said so, he has never had any problem in the past (and even at that very same fanfest) telling the players they can't show something because it's not quite ready yet.

He has shown an incredible reluctance to even state they're coming which is very telling, only avoiding the questions or copping out and deferring to the next fanfest.

Lol, you reply everyone, you dont work or sleep? XD
Still thin we will get rev or a new race. What is kinda odd is that blufever never said anything about locked race, so male is not totally off.

[GenericMagus]

have ppl forgotten miqo'te used to be female only and it eventually allowed both genders

No, no one has. The reasoning for miqo'te being female only was FFXIV making expies of the FFXI.

But this is different as Mithra and Miqo'te have diversified and became 2 separate entities, while Viera has to deal with being, well Viera in its entirety and everything that the Ivalive Alliance games have to stand for, so to implement new ideas and changes to a pre-existing race is gonna be met with potential resistance from the other side of the company.

People keep forgetting that despite being a producer and strong figure, Yoshi still has to obey copyright even when dealing with different sections of FF in the company and the bureaucracy as well, alongside needing to discuss with other creators as well to use their work. I mean, it's easier to demand Viera and expect him to just, well, make it without understanding how the system works and how hard Yoshi has to try to get the rights and green light to use it.

[GenericMagus]

Lol, you reply everyone, you dont work or sleep? XD
Still thin we will get rev or a new race. What is kinda odd is that blufever never said anything about locked race, so male is not totally off.

Blufever said 2 new races and noyhing about gender locking true, but it's more to do with surrounding evidence such as Yoshi saying he'll gender lock Viera and have a 2nd race to appease those who wants males, his dislike of Male Viera, the avoidance as well, how Viera has always been historically gender locked even in their home games.

Yoshi still has a pretty big say in what happens, alongside other reasons I have said in a previous post.

[AriaFairchild]

New Mog Station item: Viera Male Unlock (account-wide): $29.99!

I am willing to bet that YoshiP and co went out of their way to blue ball the entire Western playerbase in order to get back at the male bunny suits shenanigan. This thread actually pleases them.

[Fredco191]

I am willing to bet that YoshiP and co went out of their way to blue ball the entire Western playerbase in order to get back at the male bunny suits shenanigan. This thread actually pleases them.

I feel like they would do that.

[MaethusXion]

New Mog Station item: Viera Male Unlock (account-wide): $29.99!.

You're being very optimistic there. It'll probably be $29.99/character or $49.99/account. Or $9.99 mViera Only Fantasia...

[Ramesses]

You're being very optimistic there. It'll probably be $29.99/character or $49.99/account. Or $9.99 mViera Only Fantasia...

I don't even...