Gender locked race?

[Gwenorai]

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No one is assuming the fall of a game, I'm saying the backlash is something to consider. That repeating mistakes that a previous developer made is not the way to go. He took a step in the right direction, he looked at those complaints and he fixed what he could. This is a good developer. You know what isn't good? Going from that and then slapping a gender lock back onto something again.

We've just had our first limited class.
There is a possibility that we will be getting our second-course of limited races.
- It doesn't help that this will be one after the other that is starting to make people uncomfortable. I honestly expect Dancer to be female only at this rate if the sole reason that Viera male isn't added is due to them being uncomfortable about it due to 'cuteness'. So now we're going to have a bunch of strapping young lads dancing around with grace and elegance.

How is this okay? Because it worked with other communities it'll be fine in this one? I really do not understand this logic where something bad has happened, you revert it, but then you add it back in again and NOT expect people to think that was an idiotic move and not go 'wtf'. He is a smart man, I can't imagine this happening because of how stupid it sounds on paper.

He reverted a gender lock, the community thought that was the end of it. He asked for races, people voted Viera. The assumption can be made that due to what happened and how silly it would be to return to those times that male Viera would be included.

As for the demographic, no one knows that demographic because we don't have that data. That's just as much of an assumption to make than people assuming that a gender locked race is going to make people flinch away from it.

70% positive? Where are you getting that, where are they getting that? Don't tell me they're getting that number from how many players are active vs how many actually picked up the quest. Or is it an on forum poll where only a small portion of the community voted? The same argument could be said for the race poll as well I suppose.

If he's adding in a new race for marketability he should do what all people do when they're trying to make a profit. Advertise their product. Where is the advertising for this new race? We don't know, they haven't shown it yet. Viera was used for marketability right on time for preorders. Where is the other one? If there new to FF then the current races aren't going to matter; they wouldn't have seen those races before!

And while adding in a completely new race could be the better option, it doesn't look all that great when the race you're adding is supposedly another feline race when you already have one! Out of all the things to pick from and then, they're just going to slap on a gender lock on that one as well. Creating a brand new race is one thing, something that is new and unique to the game that a lot of people can enjoy, like au'ra. But to create a brand new race and then slap a gender lock on it is a new thing entirely. It'd be like releasing Aura again but only having one gender.

If they're going to gender lock Viera then I'd rather they didn't gender lock the other race that has no need to be gender locked. In fact, I'd rather have them not release any other race at all if they're just going to lock them.

As for the friend, no, they're new. They bought into after seeing others using that race and thankfully for them, it wasn't gender locked.

Sigh - I honestly can't be chuffed to argue anymore; as we just end up talking in circles and then over exaggerations on what the other is saying. Actually getting lowkey tiresome. So I'm just going to leave it as agree to disagree and the likes.

[Kupocoubo]

We will soon reach 100 pages, Im so proud of y'all
Male Vieras 4 life

[Ramesses]

We will soon reach 100 pages, Im so proud of y'all
Male Vieras 4 life

...Innit?

Completely agree with you there, Kupo... when it got to 72 pages, I was already astounded.

And here we are approaching 100 pages... incredible indeed.

[xbahax92]

1. They have concept art already for the new areas and 2 jobs planned as well as a new race. One job has it's concept art and the other has animation data.
2. Viera isn't the only new race.

The very first leak he mentions a new race, and 5 months later he talks about a 2. race... Something seems foul to me.

When Lupin got introduced with the SB Trailer, people thought about a new, playable race. Nobody knew about them. SE didnt announce anything like them during the SB FanFests, yet people made an small uproar about them - started speculating.
In the end, the Lupin ended up as unplayable race, as NPC's. Can only speculate about Revs being bara cats, being used as new-lupin race...

[redcurrant18]

Can only speculate about Revs being bara cats, being used as new-lupin race...

I hope so. Eventually it would be amazing if we could get a bestial race like Lupin or Ronso but now is not the time nor the place.

[Shougun]

I hope so. Eventually it would be amazing if we could get a bestial race like Lupin or Ronso but now is not the time nor the place.

I mean if we could have two whole races with both genders... then now is fine, I'd take now.. lol. I just really like Ronso cause they've got it all, they are really a chimera of beast races. Claws, tail, horn, fur, manes, feet (viera like), ears, animations - the whole package of beast lol. Or imo a better looking Charr, although I think Charr are neat too.


Someone purge the Rev though, I'm okay with that. Viera Male made it out of the forest fire but Rev went extinct lol.

[reivaxe]

The very first leak he mentions a new race, and 5 months later he talks about a 2. race... Something seems foul to me...

Not at all really.
Seems like blufever was a westerner working on translations or some such so they would know a great deal ahead of time but not everything at the earliest possible time.

Anyway, everything they have leaked has been correct so far or later found out through interviews to have been changed or moved around as they were being worked on. The only thing that's left is dancer and 2nd new race that's hinted to be lion like.

I personally have no real reason to doubt it at this point.

But that's me. Bunnies being gender locked doesn't matter to me one bit, making up a male lion race as the counterpart doesn't bother me either. I just think its a terrible decision if that's the case ... Cause then, until 6.0, people are gonna be demanding the to unlock both for fairness.

Idk what to expect anymore. Male buns and a non gender locked lion race? The buns sub race being like humans where they're basically 2 different races and one looks lion like? Just 2 new while races? Why not? Apparently they're willing to pump tons of time and resources into a job people drop a week after hittong max.

Idk, bring it though!

[Iscah]

Anyway, everything they have leaked has been correct so far or later found out through interviews to have been changed or moved around as they were being worked on.

Does that include BLU as starting-at-Lv60 melee support DPS? Because that made me conclude a separate supposed-leak was fake, only to finally read the original BluFever leaks the other day and discover the same claim was in there.

[reivaxe]

Does that include BLU as starting-at-Lv60 melee support DPS? Because that made me conclude a separate supposed-leak was fake, only to finally read the original BluFever leaks the other day and discover the same claim was in there.

I don't remember him saying it's starting level would be 60. I do remember him thinking it could be a pre-order thing or w/e and we know the class is being pushed to 60 soon. IIRC it was supposed to be capped at 60 instead but they decided to lower that to 50 close to release.

And by all means Blu is a melee caster Support DPS if you want to call it anything.

But if you think having some guess work on Blue details means his leaks are not to be trusted don't mind me, just ignore them.

His leak's have been more than correct enough for me personally.

[BiddyBatnana]

I still believe they will be genderlocked. I have a hard time thinking they would insist that much on the lore just for stortelling purpose.

But eh I coud be wrong.

Maybe if people keep begging SE as if their lives were on danger or threatening as if they were the supreme authority, SE could change their mind. *shrugs*