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  1. #21
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    jameseoakes's Avatar
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    James Oakes
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Experience and tomes. It's supposedly a lucrative roulette.
    But if they take the unskippable cutscenes out they'll have to put the rewards back down.
    (3)

  2. #22
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    But if they take the unskippable cutscenes out they'll have to put the rewards back down.
    And that worked for several years before SE decided to shake the boat with an arguably equally problematic solution. But I dare say it was better before because then people had a choice. You wanted to take your time through? You could've put up a PF and chilled with it. My fc took me through it unsynced and while it would've been better if I could just experience it properly the first time around, it was doable the proper way on my terms. And if people didn't care for the cutscenes outright, they could've skipped them and just powered through the place.
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  3. #23
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Its the same as with the 2413253745 ARF Runs for the Anima back then ppl forced themselfs into just do be done faster, but then started to either leave the dungeon or DC when they get it from roulett as they cant see it anymore...

    It was your choice, dont do it if you dont like it >_>


    The GMs should follow such reports, its just childrish - if you dont like it DONT. RUN. IT...
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  4. #24
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I've run it plenty of time when leveling and actually would hope for pratorium given the experience is better. Queue times weren't bad unless I was trying to queue early morning. I'm sure it works or they'd have changed it back long ago.
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  5. #25
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Exploiting a failsafe, even if that failsafe isn't ideal, in order to ruin other peoples experience, can't be defended.
    You don't go into a high end roulette and refuse to play because you're just RPing, you dont run as a healer and refuse to heal because "I'm a dps but wanted a quick queue", and neither should you run MSQ if you're not prepared to sit through the cutscenes, that's the deal, take it or leave it.

    That saud, hopefully Trusts will be expanded, allowing newbies to run MSQ solo if they want, and then the MSQ roulette can go back to what it was, lower rewards and all.
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  6. #26
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    Erendis's Avatar
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    E'renndis Harper
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    Ever since this exploit was discovered people have been doing it non stop.
    Only ever seen it used once and I believe we did not have new players that one time.
    (1)

  7. #27
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    How is a system that forces people to AFK for several minutes not broken?

    I repeat, then DONT. RUN. IT. ITs an very very easy fix >_>
    (5)

  8. #28
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Character
    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Can you blame the people for skipping the CS? No because they are way to long.
    Is harrassing ok just because someone doesn't skip? No.
    Should the stuff from there be solo content or should the CS be somewhere else? Yes.
    Is the Roulette worth the hassle of watching CS? Absolutly not, there are way more things that you could do during this time.

    Solution: Don't run the roulette if you don't want to waste time with CS and get your exp and tomes in another and less annoying way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

  9. #29
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    Aellae's Avatar
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    Lily Crescent
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    I repeat, then DONT. RUN. IT. ITs an very very easy fix >_>
    When the solution to something - that was literally designed to help out beginning or low level players/classes with queue by convincing everyone to do it - is to not do it, how is this not a bad design? How is that the solution?
    Mind boggling.
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  10. #30
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Last time i checked this was a story dungeon.As in it was designed for story and thus being a new player dungeon.I dont recall reading anywhere that they have changed the dungeon to be a place for level 70 players to farm tomes.The tomes are just there as a reward for older players participating and helping the new players clear content in the way it was designed to be enjoyed.
    I havent seen any notes anywhere from SE stating it's ok to use a glitch to either force other players to use the same glitch or to deny new players of participating in the story content ie the boss fights.

    Too many self entitled high leveled players in this thread who only seem to care about themselves and contribute to the toxicity that exists in duty finder.

    Hopefully SE will start banning these players though i'd say they will only be able to ban players who have repeatadly broken the TOS with this glitch as players can get random disconnects from network issues and it would be bad to accidently punish them also.

    The game is designed for new and old players and older players need to start remembering that because if you keep up the toxicity towards newer players you wil drive them away and eventually the game will start dying when older players leave and there are no new players to replace them.
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