So people are defending the msq dc exploit

[KaivaC]

Last time i checked this was a story dungeon.As in it was designed for story and thus being a new player dungeon.I dont recall reading anywhere that they have changed the dungeon to be a place for level 70 players to farm tomes.The tomes are just there as a reward for older players participating and helping the new players clear content in the way it was designed to be enjoyed.
I havent seen any notes anywhere from SE stating it's ok to use a glitch to either force other players to use the same glitch or to deny new players of participating in the story content ie the boss fights.

Too many self entitled high leveled players in this thread who only seem to care about themselves and contribute to the toxicity that exists in duty finder.

Hopefully SE will start banning these players though i'd say they will only be able to ban players who have repeatadly broken the TOS with this glitch as players can get random disconnects from network issues and it would be bad to accidently punish them also.

The game is designed for new and old players and older players need to start remembering that because if you keep up the toxicity towards newer players you wil drive them away and eventually the game will start dying when older players leave and there are no new players to replace them.

The post I originally wanted to comment on before the lockout. I just love how people point out some obvious flaws and stand by how bad a particular XIV system is, and automatically invites labels of 'self-entitled' and 'contributing to toxicity'. Are you serious right now? Have you played with anybody in this thread through the MSQ to even back up that opinion? Maybe all of us so-called "self-entitled" people don't even engage in that type of behavior. Maybe some of us don't even run ahead of sprouts just so they don't get lost or left behind. But you don't know that, do you? Nah...much easier to just resort to calling out people whom you've probably never played with or experienced an MSQ run with. Far easier to group in those toxic players with those that don't align with an opinion of yours, hm?

The fact of the matter is that if the devs didn't want vets to run the place, they wouldn't have increased the rewards in the fashion that they have. Some have argued that this was a necessary evil simply because their spaghetti code may not allow them to separate the whole cutscene issue between the DF, PF, and the Unending Journey. Still doesn't mean that people simply don't like it. A lot of us want to help the new players - but being forced to sit through long cutscenes (and being told to not run it if you don't like it) just sounds incredibly silly.

You know what? I was one of those rookies not very long ago - and I appreciated that I could watch those scenes guilt-free.

If you don't like that they are unskippable, don't run the damned things. It's not that complicated.

Hell, I don't run the MSQ more than once or twice a month simply because I just don't have the time to devote to it. You don't see me crying about losing out on the reward because of it....

Another case of min-maxers looking to dictate the terms of everything of an MMO, as usual....

Are my post counts back? Good.

And grats on saying you were a rookie not very long ago. Guess what - so were all of us at one point or another. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the devs put rewards in there to incentivize vets into actually spending the time of day to help new players get through it. But let's take this to its logical conclusion, hm? What if vets just stopped running MSQ roulette altogether. Like, all of them. In this scenario, vets are anybody who has cleared both dungeons. I'd imagine that this would significantly increase queue times - maybe perhaps back to pre-Raid Roulette levels, maybe even longer. Maybe not immediately, but it will eventually happen.

Love how you're grandstanding here. "Dictate the terms of everything of an MMO". No, it's just pointing out a very obvious flaw in a dumb solution.