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  1. #31
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    My issue with Eureka is that frankly for the amount of money and development time being spent on it they don't seem too sure how to /actually/ make it work. Anemos was a decent success in spite of itself because everyone ignored the way the developers wanted us to grind and sought other ways to have our fun. Then when Pagos came out it was as if whomever has been pushing Eureka on the development team was having a full blown tantrum for people not enjoying the content /their way/. The same thing occurred with Diadem and while I know some people have enjoyed every step of this long and blown out process, when the vast majority of players resoundingly seem unenthused by your content I'd struggle to call it a success. At least with things like Ultimate it's basically reskinned and reused assets that couldn't have cost very much to offset the fact that a fraction of the playerbase will ever set foot inside of it.

    I just want the Diadem tantrum to end. Barely anyone liked it when Diadem came out, nor when they 'fixed it' towards the end of Heavensward. Anemos was probably the happiest people have been with the content and that was because they could get around the frankly silly ways the development team thought it should be played. Then in Pagos it became clear that instead of capitalizing on what made Anemos work for a good portion of the populace, they were upset with us and focused on the fact that people weren't playing the last stage /correctly/. Even if Eureka and content like it could eventually be polished into something the majority of players would enjoy I don't trust this current team on FFXIV to be able to do it. Not when they're so laser focused on implementing what they think players should like instead of actually considering the tastes of their consumers and adapting accordingly.
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    Last edited by Enla; 11-07-2018 at 03:34 AM.

  2. #32
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    There were always a ton of people in Pagos when I was going through it. Seems alot of people like it. Please don't tell the developers to stop making content just because you don't like it
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru View Post
    Please. just stop. at this point I would rather have less content in SB and better content in the next expansion. You're wasting everyone's time with this useless crapfest. And this is me being as nice as I possibly can.
    If u dont like it, dont do it, if ppl want to do it, they do. This is an MMORPG, not a single player game.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Meanwhile, I don’t see any “Please save Eureka” threads being made, unlike the thread made about not cancelling a third Ultimate for Stormblood—which attracted both raiders and non-raiders alike.
    Simply because the devs didn't seriously consider canceling Pyros or the next one.
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Ultimate wasn’t made to cater to the majority of the playerbase, and the developers never advertised it as such
    Neither was Eureka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ticks View Post
    There were always a ton of people in Pagos when I was going through it. Seems alot of people like it.
    I think that's the same logic the devs are using. "People are doing it therefore they like it" isn't necessarily true.
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  6. #36
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Neither was Eureka.
    The Relic is—and it’s stuck in Eureka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ticks View Post
    There were always a ton of people in Pagos when I was going through it. Seems alot of people like it. Please don't tell the developers to stop making content just because you don't like it
    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I think that's the same logic the devs are using. "People are doing it therefore they like it" isn't necessarily true.
    Also, what you perceive as "a lot of people" is actually still very minor considering how big the FF14 community is at this point - well, not right now now, as quite a few have unsubscribed I imagine as with every cycle. Though it feels like this cycle holds even less, with Eureka being such a mess.
    If people do it, then they do it, not that I care. For me it easily beats Diadem as worst designed content.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akor View Post
    If u dont like it, dont do it, if ppl want to do it, they do. This is an MMORPG, not a single player game.
    Just because people are there doesnt mean they like it. I for one dislike it, mostly Pagos. Anemos was ok after you hit level 17. I'm there because they took the things I really want and put it in there. I'm not there because I want to be. I wouldn't go into that place if it wasn't for the weapons, emotes, hair, and mounts. Also the story aspect is intriguing. Take away the rewards and I would just ignore it like do other things. A good example is PVP. I dislike PVP but I played it just enough to get the things I want and never looked back. SE knows what they are doing, that's why they keep putting so many thing in Eureka.

    It's frustrating that we lost extra dungeons and more resources are going into content that most people don't find enjoyable.
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    Last edited by RukiaFae; 11-07-2018 at 04:24 AM.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Neither was Eureka.
    Eureka definitely is catered to the vast majority of players in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ticks View Post
    There were always a ton of people in Pagos when I was going through it. Seems alot of people like it. Please don't tell the developers to stop making content just because you don't like it
    I was one of those ppl doing pagos when it was busy and i loathed every second of it. The only reason i did it at all is because the relic is locked behind it, you can't assume a busy instance means that ppl are having fun or like the content.
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