Please stop making Eureka

[InkstainedGwyn]

For what it’s worth, I’ve heard that the hairstyle, at least, has a much better droprate compared to “Shiver”.

That's some small consolation, so thank you (although the spice rack is really where my ambitions lie.)

I'm still mad, though. I don't begrudge people who want Eureka and enjoy it. I never begrudged people Rival Wings or Ultimate Anything. But when those came out, there was still other stuff in the patch I could enjoy. I don't have to have all of the patch catered to me, but I do want something. But this time they literally locked every single thing they could behind Eureka, praying that it would force people into it. So much for "if you want the relic, you'll need to do the relic quest" - it's "if you want anything, you'll have to do the relic quest".

I'm surprised they didn't put the start of the 4.45 Hildibrand questline in an area of Pyros that you can only get to after level 45.

[Aster_E]

I'm surprised they didn't put the start of the 4.45 Hildibrand questline in an area of Pyros that you can only get to after level 45.

Please don't give Yoshi any more bad ideas.

[HyoMinPark]

That's some small consolation, so thank you (although the spice rack is really where my ambitions lie.)

I'm still mad, though. I don't begrudge people who want Eureka and enjoy it. I never begrudged people Rival Wings or Ultimate Anything. But when those came out, there was still other stuff in the patch I could enjoy. I don't have to have all of the patch catered to me, but I do want something. But this time they literally locked every single thing they could behind Eureka, praying that it would force people into it. So much for "if you want the relic, you'll need to do the relic quest" - it's "if you want anything, you'll have to do the relic quest".

I'm surprised they didn't put the start of the 4.45 Hildibrand questline in an area of Pyros that you can only get to after level 45.

Oh, trust me. I share your concerns. I’ve stockpiled farming Ex mounts to have something to do after I finish Alphascape and clear UCoB because I decided when Pagos released that I wasn’t going to participate in Eureka or the Relic anymore this expansion. But it is astounding how much they continue to shove in there in a vain hope people will suddenly love the content.

My concern for FFXIV has grown a lot since Pagos released, and if 5.0 brings another Relic with another Diadem reskin and more copy-paste content, I’ve also considered moving on to another game. Even if they come out with awesome Savage fights and awesome Ultimate fights, because I want something more to do. Raiding isn’t all there is, and it isn’t all I’ve enjoyed in FFXIV. Up until now, at least.

[InkstainedGwyn]

Oh, trust me. I share your concerns. I’ve stockpiled farming Ex mounts to have something to do after I finish Alphascape and clear UCoB because I decided when Pagos released that I wasn’t going to participate in Eureka or the Relic anymore this expansion. But it is astounding how much they continue to shove in there in a vain hope people will suddenly love the content.

My concern for FFXIV has grown a lot since Pagos released, and if 5.0 brings another Relic with another Diadem reskin and more copy-paste content, I’ve also considered moving on to another game. Even if they come out with awesome Savage fights and awesome Ultimate fights, because I want something more to do. Raiding isn’t all there is, and it isn’t all I’ve enjoyed in FFXIV. Up until now, at least.

I'll be legit, I don't get mad about a lot of the same content-related stuff that seems to upset other folks - I was fine with the same old "1-2 dungeons, some MSQ, something randomly interesting like a beast tribe or HoH or Enclave, some PVP, etc". I even enjoyed Diadem as something to pass the time occasionally, because I wasn't being expected to go in there all the time. Not saying I don't see why other people are bored/tired/upset - I get that - but I'm one of those annoying "nah, I'm chill with the game" folks. I don't mind predictable because I enjoy what is there.

But this is just... at this rate, everything's going to be locked behind something that was supposed to be only a part/niche element of the game, and it's a mind-bogglingly terrible choice. In HW, even though I'd gotten to 60 (and started on my WHM staff), I barely heard about half of the relic changes - I wasn't on those stages of the quest, and everything I wanted to do was unrelated to what I wanted (quests, beast tribes, crafting, etc). Here, you can't help but "hear/know about the relic" because if you want anything, it's going to be locked in the same jumbled mess.

I'm repeating myself now, and I know it's because I'm actually angry at the moment, so I should probably close the forums down and take a break tonight from the game. But for the first time, I actually find myself thinking, "maybe XIV does need a new development team". What's the whole 5.0 expansion going to be called, "Epiphany: Not Eureka, We Promise"? Instead of gating the endgame behind the MSQ they'll gate the MSQ behind Eureka, and you'll have to have gotten to 75 before you can start on the first MSQ quest.

[Aster_E]

My concern for FFXIV has grown a lot since Pagos released, and if 5.0 brings another Relic with another Diadem reskin and more copy-paste content, I’ve also considered moving on to another game. Even if they come out with awesome Savage fights and awesome Ultimate fights, because I want something more to do. Raiding isn’t all there is, and it isn’t all I’ve enjoyed in FFXIV. Up until now, at least.

I just checked to see if "City of Titans" is ready to go yet (doesn't look it, still), because, for me, it would be fitting if I left another online FF for a spiritual successor to the game that I left XI for, more than twelve years ago.

The irony here is that I even considered giving FFXI another chance, but the answer to that is still a big, fat no for me due to XI's gameplay not being to my liking, and also it would be a bit dumb to refuse to give SE money for XIV only to give money on something I like even less.