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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    You rely on randoms, you take what you can get.
    This is a sad mindset to have. Why should we have to settle for the healer that can't actually keep a party alive in Suzaku Ex? Or the tank that can't hold aggro on her? Or the DPS that can't do more than 3,000 DPS? Or any party member that dies to every mechanic she has?

    There's no way the devs can solve this by adding a parser, because most people who do endgame already use or can easily use them. If you don't like it, don't rely on randoms, and don't raid if "real life issues" make it so you can't show up frequently.
    Ah, yes. How dare I be a full-time student trying to get a degree, and how dare I be unwilling to drop my classes at a moment's notice to farm content outside of scheduled raid times! How dare my other static mates not call out of work to help me farm a mount! How dare they drop their social lives on Friday nights to not help me get a weapon! How dare my friends not log in the second I demand it so we can do Suzaku Ex! How dare I not do that! How dare any of the raiders in this game not do that!

    Give me a break, Riyah. You don't have an actual argument here.

    Go build a cross server linkshell, or a server fc full of enough competent people that they can cover for the times when real life does intrude. If you try and force a fix through dev means, it's probably going to backfire; it may keep the bads out, but it may also end up keeping the people who would try and improve out too.
    Already have a CWLS for this, thank you. Sucks you can only have one though, because I can't invite the other raider friends I have that are in other CWLS already. I also have Discord servers where I can ask for help if a group needs a fill in. But again - this may shock you, Riyah - sometimes people aren't available at the drop of a hat to join a farm party because they have lives outside the game.

    If people want to try and improve, the place for that is NOT a farm party. You don't try to learn your 70 rotation in Suzaku Ex. You don't practice an opener in V9S.


    I suppose my earlier questions to you were answered: clearly it is a crime to expect competency in farm parties. Clearly it is a crime to expect randoms to know the content and know their rotations, and to not sneak into groups lying about their experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    sheesh, this game has the least time-demanding endgame of any mmo out there. Schedule your farms for one night a week for two or three hours; if people can't make it to that, they probably should consider if raiding is what they want to do. Because in other games there would be none of this, you get kicked if you don't show up on time enough. And you make sure you schedule things so people can plan for it. If you consistently need to pug stuff, that's a people failure; you need to talk to the people who aren't showing up and see what's up.
    My static was meeting 4 days a week when we were progging UwU. We upped that to 5 days some weeks, especially towards the end of 4.3. We've still been putting in extra days since 4.4 launched for both Alphascape and UwU, but we've tried to back off because - wait for it - we have other obligations now where we can't always meet every night to raid! I have class 3 days a week, and Sundays are dedicated to spending time with my family. Some members have work 5 or 6 days a week, come home to raid, go to sleep, and rinse repeat. We were nothing but obligated to our prog, and we still are. This last week we added in the weekends!

    The day they pick to farm Suzaku Ex for weapons or mounts I may not be able to join because I have other responsibilities like, I dunno, studying for exams. It's shocking that they may be more important than the game, I know. I farm for dogs when I have the time. That free time may not always match up with my friends or my static mates. So I turn to party finder. But yes, I know, we are all at fault here for not dropping everything for a video game.

    My other friends have their own statics that meet, and they may be raiding with them when I want to farm for a dog. Or they may be in school. Or spending time with their families. But that's still somehow our fault, right? Yes, it is the raiders' faults for having other obligations outside of the game. And, as a consequence, they should settle for that RDM who has "seen enrage" but dies to every mechanic. They should settle for the WHM that heals with Medica II only. They should settle for the tank that can't Provoke/Shirk for swaps, or hold aggro. Yes. Clearly.

    Again. You don't have an actual argument here.
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