How would an optional, official parser be toxic?

[RiyahArp]

Then how about you stop demanding everyone else to carry the scrubs that don't know how to play and take the initiative to get better. The fix is to point out what those scrubs are doing wrong in the first place which will be easier to do with a parser.

I never argued anyone should be carried. I am arguing that if you expect people to get better as solution, it's never going to happen. You can only change yourself, and choose who you hang around with. If you rely on random people, you get random results. If you think the devs can fix that, you're going to get disappointed.

I'm going to be honest, I do not care if a person fails to improve even if a parser was added. I care about having a tool that allows me to weed out the dead weight easier. The faster I can weed the garden, the sooner I can put the bad player on my blacklist and never have to deal with them again.

Then over time you will end up in a static by default, because you'll get tired of that and just play with people you trust, which solves that problem a lot better than constantly blacklisting people.

Actually...yeah, we can.

Yeah, you can kick. but you can't expect all random people to be good. You have to accept that a lot will be bad or mediocre. A lot of people here are really wanting to solve people being bad at the hardest content in the game, and that's not going to happen.

[Sigma-Astra]

This is exactly what we want to do though. I don't know why you can't understand this.

It's Riyah, that's why. If we ask for the rest of the players to have the common decency and courtesy to read shit before they click on it, apparently we're the bad guys and that's asking for far too much.

Basic reading comprehension is a must-have, not an optional privilege in party finder.

[Rangar]

An official parser would be nice, but could only realistically work by being limited to the player, and NEVER include the party (even though there's already hoards of people running them regardless). It's always comes down to the issue of singling out people for "bad numbers" that keeps this from being a thing.

[MageBlack]

An official parser would be nice, but could only realistically work by being limited to the player, and NEVER include the party (even though there's already hoards of people running them regardless). It's always comes down to the issue of singling out people for "bad numbers" that keeps this from being a thing.

I think that is the only realistic solution to this is a personal parser. It would be good to have an official parser, so PS4 players can use one, but it needs to be something for personal improvement.

[greytonberry]

Day-????

I've lost count, the days blend in with one another, time ceases to be a thing, the world is crumbling around me. I don't know who I am, where I am, or what I am. The only thing I know for sure is that parsers are the evil.

[Daibunnie]

None of that matters, those logs are based on whoever has logs not every player of the class or what is the limit that class can do in any given fight. Its already biased that 4.9k isn't dead weight you needed it to clear the fight unless you think your pumping out enough damage to clear current content with a dps dead on the floor the entire time. That said kicking people because they don't meet your standards in not the problem nor what anyone was talking about its how you do it. Most of people are not gonna be like "hey your damage is too low we want faster kills bye" Most are gonna be "lol trash sam with 4.5k dps learn your rotation insult x y and z." will all of them be like those two examples no of course not but those will increase. People already do these but they hardly say it to the persons face they just say it to their fcs and linkshells. this games community kinda runs on hear no evil see no evil and you and others don't do it because of the very real chance you get banned for a few days. That's the toxicity people in this thread are referring too

When someone is doing below average dps, gear is the first thing people will check, then their rotation. The problem is usually rotation especially at savage content where ilvl is locked accordingly. Also, people will say what is on their mind. You play like you have no idea what you're doing at endgame, people will criticize, berate, or even mock you whether its in game or online. Because in the end, you're wasting their time when they could've gotten another competent player instead and finished w/e they were doing.

[thegreatonemal]

When someone is doing below average dps, gear is the first thing people will check, then their rotation. The problem is usually rotation especially at savage content where ilvl is locked accordingly. Also, people will say what is on their mind. You play like you have no idea what you're doing at endgame, people will criticize, berate, or even mock you whether its in game or online. Because in the end, you're wasting their time when they could've gotten another competent player instead and finished w/e they were doing.

So instead of linking them to the balance discord then kicking them and moving on people harass which will increase with an official parser. Add that on to the fact that parser aren't really needed for anything outside of theory testing and speed runs. so why waste dev time on that. It would be better if they added the rotations to the game and a way to practice it kinda like fighting games do.

[Zephera]

So instead of linking them to the balance discord then kicking them and moving on people harass which will increase with an official parser.

You cannot prove this. Also it's been said already, but if someone is going to harass then they'll do it anyway, parser of not.

[Daibunnie]

So instead of linking them to the balance discord then kicking them and moving on people harass which will increase with an official parser. Add that on to the fact that parser aren't really needed for anything outside of theory testing and speed runs. so why waste dev time on that. It would be better if they added the rotations to the game and a way to practice it kinda like fighting games do.

Things like a balance discord can easily be searched on their own time instead of expecting their party to do it for them. Also, you should NOT be in any clear party if you need a rotation guide of any sort, which are readily available online. A parser can tell you how many times a player is using a particular skill, what they’re dying to, how much dps is being dealt. All useful to clear efficiently.

[thegreatonemal]

Things like a balance discord can easily be searched on their own time instead of expecting their party to do it for them. Also, you should NOT be in any clear party if you need a rotation guide of any sort, which are readily available online. A parser can tell you how many times a player is using a particular skill, what they’re dying to, how much dps is being dealt. All useful to clear efficiently.

This might be news to you but most people don't google how to play video games they buy this problem is an mmo in general issue. when i play street fighter or ff7 i don't have to google how to do haduken or insert materia I press pause and go down to move list or have a tutorial on that very subject when it becomes relevant to the game that I can revisit anytime I please