This Needs to Be Said

[Reynhart]

In HW there was alternatives to build you relic.

Yeah, right...farm tomestones, next step, farm tomestones, next step, farm tomestones...Frankly, I'll take a dozen Eureka zones just to not have to farm tomestones ever again.
Still, you have a very decent alternative to both the Eureka weapon and the Savage weapon, you can easily not do those if you don't like them and let those who do enjoy.

In fact, like Ko_ said, it's important that you don't do it if you don't like it, as it's the only way to see if the content is really successful or not, since the people who post here can never speak for the majority wether they praise or complain about something.

If not for relic and AF gear Eureka would have been dead on arrival just like Diadem 1 and 2 were.

If not for weapons and mounts, EX Primals would be dead after the first week.
If not for gear, 8-man and 24-man raids would de bead after the first week.
Claiming that a content is alive only because its reward is attracting is...well, the very core of every content in an MMO.

[Caitlyn]

Euhm that has been done sort of with one of the arr relic weapon steps. You had to complete 3 dungeons, 10 sets of mobs and 3 specific fates with sometimes attrocious respawn rates.

ARR was different, because you werent able to choose your activity.

[Dionysius]

eureka definitely a more fun content than collecting tomestones via speed running dungeons or spamming a1s, especially I get to see eureka keeps getting improved everytime they give us a new map.

so yeah can't wait to see pyros, keep making it better dev.

[Floortank]

I hated running Aetherochemical Research Facility over and over and over for the umbrite step of 3.0 relic. My god, it was terrible. Eureka is far preferable to that.

[Aylis]

I don't know how many times we have to tell them before they listen to us.

Best thing to do is just avoid doing the content all together. I'm not defending them in the slightest but history shows they take all the suggestions put in the suggestion box and just toss them out. The only things they do listen to is when their data shows the content is nearly barren, or when sub numbers take a huge loss.

As long as their data shows people are doing the content, weither the players actually want to do it or if its even fun to the players. It doesn't matter to them. As long as they see lots pf players doing it, they consider it to be a success and the trend continues.

[Ceasaria]

The random weapons of Diadem 1 (at the beginning) is what allowed this version to stay alive until the complaint of the players (raiders).
The next update completely ruined the weapons, and since the Diadem was dead (same version 2).

I do not understand how we can complain about that.
We could stuff ourselves as we wanted (and very well) on any job (complaint we currently receive with the capped memo).
And for the random, It's been a long time we got it on the loots and yet we do not complain strangely.

Afterward, I don't know, surely all those who do not like it, have never played or enjoyed Borderland or any similar game that offers billions of different weapons through random stats and effects (that's for sure on FF, it remains less interesting).

Me, I have pleasure in several forms with that : expectation (drop and gain), surprise (stats, rarety), power (compared to other weapons and other players).
If you don't feel any satisfaction, then this system is not for you, that's all.

So, given the Pyros info (that and the dungeons, + system logos), I'm really looking forward to it.
To, and by the way, Pagos >> Anemos.

[Rokke]

I hated running Aetherochemical Research Facility over and over and over for the umbrite step of 3.0 relic. My god, it was terrible. Eureka is far preferable to that.

eureka definitely a more fun content than collecting tomestones via speed running dungeons or spamming a1s

Why do people who like Eureka always fall back on this defense? You didn't need to spam ARF or A1S to complete your relic. If you didn't enjoy running the two over and over...there were alternatives.

[HiroesX81]

Prove it.

Wheres your data? back it up. And not with posts from people flaming because they dont want to do it. Where are your dead instances?

[KaivaC]

Afterward, I don't know, surely all those who do not like it, have never played or enjoyed Borderland or any similar game that offers billions of different weapons through random stats and effects (that's for sure on FF, it remains less interesting).

That is quite the leap of assumption there. Just because it was enjoyable in Borderlands 1, 2, and the Pre-Sequel, does not equate to the exact same thing here in FFXIV. In fact, the billions of different weapons are one of the key driving points of that series - not here in FFXIV.

Prove it.

Wheres your data? back it up. And not with posts from people flaming because they dont want to do it. Where are your dead instances?

? Prove what? That the complaints against Eureka as a whole have only grown since Anemos? That even in-game, away from reddit, gamefaqs, and the forums, you can still spot people complaining about it? I'm not sure what you are getting at here. What exactly are you asking me to prove? Dead instances weren't even mentioned in my OP...so yeah...

[Marcellus_Cassius]

To each their own, maybe I should start complaining about how savage mode is offensive to my time.