White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Stormfur]

We don't know yet, maybe we do fight Nael. Maybe 1.0 Nael too.

[solracht]

I've had these earrings glamoured on all of my jobs since the addition of the glamour system, so there are some of us that definitely still care about them. Now, I'm not against the earrings becoming available again after these many years (and I would've been okay with this happening a long time ago because I think time-limited rewards are dumb) but I am very much opposed to the way they're being re-added to the game.

The earrings were meant as a reward for defeating the ultimate encounter of 1.0 and they've now been reduced to seasonal event fodder. Couldn't they have at least been re-added as a reward for defeating one of Darnus' many current FFXIV incarnations? Clearing min ilevel T9S, doing x kills of P2 of UCOB, or a low % droprate from regular T9, it's not like there aren't options. The least they could've done either way (like many others said) is renaming the version that comes from the Rising.


I've said this before but ultimately what I'm really bothered by is the lack of consistency in this game when it comes to exclusive rewards across its modes. Raid PVE rewards are handed over to everyone over time, and the community tells us to suck it up and stop being entitled... meanwhile Feast PVP rewards remain exclusive forever and we're told we should've grabbed them when we had the chance and to stop being entitled. How hypocritical.

[Aquaslash]

Have we mentioned the fact that this is only happening after five years yet? Aka half a decade, aka 1826 days, aka plenty of time for you to have literally been killed multiple times over in thia chaotic world, and chances are a significant portion of the people who played and earned this back then probably have died? Cause I don't think we've stressed that enough. That is MORE than long enough to enjoy your "exclusive" time and get your jollies.

My friends, this is a VIDEO GAME. These rewards are digital and not redeemable for any cash value. When SE takes the servers down and moves on to the next thing, these will be gone. That is to say, stop having a cow over literal worthless trinkets. I've got plenty of prestige achievements just like the rest of you in games with far worse grinds. If they made those things gimmies for the common man I wouldn't give a damn because my memories are still mine. The true reward is always the journey to the end instead of the end itself. The idea of even having some exclusive item to lord over people is the most ridiculous concept I've ever heard of, especially in a damn video game. It's one thing to work hard and enjoy the fruits of your labor; but to do it just to rub in people's faces like your turds don't stink? Nah fam, get over yourself.

Life is too short to be whining over somebody getting some silly ones and zeroes on a PlayStation or computer.

[Iscah]

Imagine you just spent 3 months progging UWU for 14 hours a day for 7 days every week. You finally clear and a week later Yoshi turns around and says "actually we're giving everyone a free UWU title and every weapon." Would you be annoyed or would you just shrug and go "at least I get to tell people about how I watched the same fight over and over". You'd be annoyed, wouldn't you? And don't even try to say you wouldn't. t's human nature to want to have something rare. If they just gave out something you put effort into to other people for absolutely nothing you'd feel a little cheated and a bit silly, right?

I think that depends why you did it. Did you struggle through unenjoyable content just for the reward (and now it turns out you wasted that time)? Or did you do it because you wanted the experience, or to know you were good enough to beat it?

[Canadane]

Have we mentioned the fact that this is only happening after five years yet? Aka half a decade, aka 1826 days, aka plenty of time for you to have literally been killed multiple times over in thia chaotic world, and chances are a significant portion of the people who played and earned this back then probably have died? Cause I don't think we've stressed that enough. That is MORE than long enough to enjoy your "exclusive" time and get your jollies.

My friends, this is a VIDEO GAME. These rewards are digital and not redeemable for any cash value. When SE takes the servers down and moves on to the next thing, these will be gone. That is to say, stop having a cow over literal worthless trinkets. I've got plenty of prestige achievements just like the rest of you in games with far worse grinds. If they made those things gimmies for the common man I wouldn't give a damn because my memories are still mine. The true reward is always the journey to the end instead of the end itself. The idea of even having some exclusive item to lord over people is the most ridiculous concept I've ever heard of, especially in a damn video game. It's one thing to work hard and enjoy the fruits of your labor; but to do it just to rub in people's faces like your turds don't stink? Nah fam, get over yourself.

Life is too short to be whining over somebody getting some silly ones and zeroes on a PlayStation or computer.

I'm really sorry you can only find value in physical objects and can't see meaningful emotions towards a digital happening.
People, real people worked hard and long to achieve an objective. To say it's meaningless because it's digital is a spit in the face to those that were there, enjoying the game, playing it.

[Stormfur]

It's not meaningless to the person who did it. But in the grand scheme of things, it has no meaning to anyone but what you attach to it. And expecting others to have that same level of meaning as you do is a very difficult if not impossible expectation to set.

As an example, I greatly value the Nidhogg weapons because that fight took me, personally, some time to master because I don't have much in the way of depth perception. This made the fireball phase nearly impossible. Therefore, I needed to make adjustments to the camera and really rely on muscle memory and such to discern the depth of the objects. I practiced and practiced that fight and kept improving to the best of my ability. Getting those weapons at the end of that fight was a sign of my personal victory and triumph.

Probably come the next major patch, these weapons will be craftable. They are now easily obtainable in the fight itself. Their deep and significant meaning carries something only to me and I'm not going to forget that, even if they can be made in the future with a few clicks.

[InkstainedGwyn]

I'm not a legacy player and I don't care theoretically about things being limited. I've helped all of my FC mates go back and get their ponies and birds and will help in the future with wolves and savage mounts like the alte roite.

What I do care about is precedent.

If you pre-ordered ARR to get the Cait Sith minion which was advertised as the exclusive way of getting that reward, and SE came back after 5 years and said "well, we're selling the minion now for $10 on the mog station", that's kind of terrible. For everybody saying "who cares, it's just a pair of earrings" - now that they've given the earrings out, who says they won't put the legacy tattoo up on the mog station?

It's a slippery slope argument, and in the end, I don't think it's a massive red flag. I know we already can't trust 50% of what SE (or any business, bc business) says. They've already crossed lines with the moogle outfit, and I feel like it's already a sinking ship. But this is the reason I understand why people are upset. Edit: Since this is content that wasn't "guaranteed exclusive", it was just removed from the game... then I feel like this is yet another exclusivity grab. (Still leaving the rest of the post since that's my feelings about exclusive vs. breaking guarantees.)

I don't care about the exclusivity. I just want SE to honour its promises.

[Vaer]

It's not meaningless to the person who did it. But in the grand scheme of things, it has no meaning to anyone but what you attach to it. And expecting others to have that same level of meaning as you do is a very difficult if not impossible expectation to set.

As an example, I greatly value the Nidhogg weapons because that fight took me, personally, some time to master because I don't have much in the way of depth perception. This made the fireball phase nearly impossible. Therefore, I needed to make adjustments to the camera and really rely on muscle memory and such to discern the depth of the objects. I practiced and practiced that fight and kept improving to the best of my ability. Getting those weapons at the end of that fight was a sign of my personal victory and triumph.

Probably come the next major patch, these weapons will be craftable. They are now easily obtainable in the fight itself. Their deep and significant meaning carries something only to me and I'm not going to forget that, even if they can be made in the future with a few clicks.

I get what you're saying, but it's SE who put this so called "value" on it in the first place. They said it was a limited event, along with all the other 1.2x stuff. The Nidhogg weapons were just added into the game, they never said they were going anywhere, or they were going to be exclusive. No reason to get mad about that, there was no expectation set like the legacy content.

If a company puts out a Collector's or limited edition that was only going out in 100 units, and people buy into it, then later they print the exact same stuff again. I think most people would feel cheated. Not entirely the same, but the principle of it anyway.

[Rita1989]

I'm not a legacy player and I don't care theoretically about things being limited. I've helped all of my FC mates go back and get their ponies and birds and will help in the future with wolves and savage mounts like the alte roite.

What I do care about is precedent.

If you pre-ordered ARR to get the Cait Sith minion which was advertised as the exclusive way of getting that reward, and SE came back after 5 years and said "well, we're selling the minion now for $10 on the mog station", that's kind of terrible. For everybody saying "who cares, it's just a pair of earrings" - now that they've given the earrings out, who says they won't put the legacy tattoo up on the mog station?

It's a slippery slope argument, and in the end, I don't think it's a massive red flag. I know we already can't trust 50% of what SE (or any business, bc business) says. They've already crossed lines with the moogle outfit, and I feel like it's already a sinking ship. But this is the reason I understand why people are upset.

I don't care about the exclusivity. I just want SE to honour its promises.

Comparing apples to oranges

SE never stated those earring's were exclusive legacy perks like the mount, tatoo and reduced sub but rather they became exclusive because 1.0 was so bad the content didn't exist anymore.

[InkstainedGwyn]

Comparing apples to oranges

SE never stated those earring's were exclusive legacy perks like the mount, tatoo and reduced sub but rather they became exclusive because 1.0 was so bad the content didn't exist anymore.

If they weren't "exclusive" to Legacy players, then I don't care. I'm hearing conflicting reports here, however, so... which is truth?