White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Corue]

The only reason any value is assigned to it in the end is you put it there. Pixels are pixels. A game is a game. Regardless of 'he said she said' it comes down to what value you place on a thing. And if you, personally, decide that other people having something now makes your thing 'not good anymore' that says something about you and how you value things. And that is not the responsibility of a company or other people. That is for you to deal with. No one can take away that you got to participate in the actual Calamity. Other people having an Anniversary Item, same name or not, doesn't effect that. If you somehow feel it does... that's an issue for you to deal with, not Yoshida, the developers, SE or anyone else on these Forums.

So nothing should have any intrinsic value then? Nothing should have any kind of scarcity or value that creates some kind of inherent desire for people to obtain?

Imagine you just spent 3 months progging UWU for 14 hours a day for 7 days every week. You finally clear and a week later Yoshi turns around and says "actually we're giving everyone a free UWU title and every weapon." Would you be annoyed or would you just shrug and go "at least I get to tell people about how I watched the same fight over and over". You'd be annoyed, wouldn't you? And don't even try to say you wouldn't. t's human nature to want to have something rare. If they just gave out something you put effort into to other people for absolutely nothing you'd feel a little cheated and a bit silly, right?

It's not just a matter of it being a silly item in a silly game. I'm not a not a 1.0 player nor do I speak for them, but if I were to put in some effort to complete a difficult end-game fight for a rare reward which was promised to remain exclusive only for them to turn around a few years later and say "actually nah", then that'd feel like a bit of a slap in the face wouldn't it? That tells me as a customer that I shouldn't invest money in you if you're just going to devalue me if you think you can get away with it.

[Kaurhz]

So nothing should have any intrinsic value then? Nothing should have any kind of scarcity or value that creates some kind of inherent desire for people to obtain?

Imagine you just spent 3 months progging UWU for 14 hours a day for 7 days every week. You finally clear and a week later Yoshi turns around and says "actually we're giving everyone a free UWU title and every weapon." Would you be annoyed or would you just shrug and go "at least I get to tell people about how I watched the same fight over and over". You'd be annoyed, wouldn't you? And don't even try to say you wouldn't. t's human nature to want to have something rare. If they just gave out something you put effort into to other people for absolutely nothing you'd feel a little cheated and a bit silly, right?

It's not just a matter of it being a silly item in a silly game. I'm not a not a 1.0 player nor do I speak for them, but if I were to put in some effort to complete a difficult end-game fight for a rare reward which was promised to remain exclusive only for them to turn around a few years later and say "actually nah", then that'd feel like a bit of a slap in the face wouldn't it? That tells me as a customer that I shouldn't invest money in you if you're just going to devalue me if you think you can get away with it.

People need to stop comparing this to UWU or frankly any current content, given that there is no guarantee that UWU will remain rare, especially when you factor in that some level of unsync could be introduced in the following expansion, so they will then be relatively common, particularly granted that the new expansion is likely to have changes made that won't balance level 70 particularly well (Possible, not guaranteed). So in this case comparing a sidequest item in 1.x is fundamentally wrong. Not to mention it is an item worth commemorating.

[Yoruichi4478]

People need to stop comparing this to UWU or frankly any current content, given that there is no guarantee that UWU will remain rare, especially when you factor in that some level of unsync could be introduced in the following expansion, so they will then be relatively common, particularly granted that the new expansion is likely to have changes made that won't balance level 70 particularly well (Possible, not guaranteed). So in this case comparing a sidequest item in 1.x is fundamentally wrong. Not to mention it is an item worth commemorating.

People are comparing this to UWU because the 1.0 fight was 1.0's Ultimate raid. It was the hardest fight in the game that the servers at the time could handle. Not everyone could clear it. Only a fraction of us did. Just like the 2 ultimate fights in the game right now. Only a portion of the gaming community has cleared them.

[Kaurhz]

People are comparing this to UWU because the 1.0 fight was 1.0's Ultimate raid. It was the hardest fight in the game that the servers at the time could handle. Not everyone could clear it. Only a fraction of us did. Just like the 2 ultimate fights in the game right now. Only a portion of the gaming community has cleared them.

Yes 1 fight is also long gone and doesn't exist, meanwhile Ultimate everyone has the opportunity to aim for it, including players that may not clear it, so it is a fundamentally poor comparison. That is the point I was making, about the only realistic comparison you can draw with the 1.x is with PvP, rewards that are exclusive to rankings. Even then trying to make a stretchy argument that they would give those away is just absurd, particularly granted how commemorative the earrings are to both the game and the players when compared with PvP.

Not to mention that the glory and the achievement of completing that fight has long passed. Granted to some players they hold a special value. But others, just a poor excuse to make complaints over a promise not being kept that was made 6 years ago.

Again, you people should be happy they're, and we are commemorating an encounter, or quest series that you people participated in and completed.

[ForctyusGold]

well Final Fantasy XIV and Final Fantasy XIV are whole different games, even parts like a story and others... im really upset of people telling that because Square-Enix couldnt bring this original to ps3, which was planned, so we PS players couldnt do anything in that original. i think its just wrong from PC players to act like this, grow up

[Tsalmaveth]

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Ignoring the strawman of current content being compared to discontinued defunct old content.... if they handed out things after I had worked for them, it would not change that I had worked for them. Anyone else with them would put whatever value they wanted on them, my value assigned to the item would be mine. I had WORKED for it. It's like people who go back in unsynced... it isn't the same but they get the same rewards, don't they? I don't mind. I never have and I never will. Ever. I simply do not care in a game as long as there is enjoyment found. You are free to cry foul to that if you want, I just don't get upset about a video game that I play to relax in that way. None of these items are owned by the players, anyway. These are 'rented' when we pay the subscriptions fee. Once the game is closed down, it is all gone. The 'value' of these pixels is fleeting regardless of anything we or the company do.

Fans, a much MUCH larger segment of the base that SE would like to please and work with, have asked for a re-visit to some of this old content. And while they can not do all of it, they would like to celebrate what they can. A large Anniversary like this... they are doing it in this manner. As I have stated before, the fanbase that is now the priority to the company, ones with higher value logically and economically, have put in repeated requests. And a large company is going to look to answering the larger and more economically sound segment. They can't just open up old-school code-servers pre-Calamity like WoW has. So they are doing Anniversary Events and little surprises. The 'promise of exclusivity' was made years ago and the larger company can look at it and go 'that was then, a larger fanbase has requested something different' and move forward with a different business approach. Legacy Players have set rewards that, legitimately, should not be touched. Other than that, the company can go back at any time to re-evaluate their business approach and the wider market and answer to it.

[Iscah]

Imagine you just spent 3 months progging UWU for 14 hours a day for 7 days every week. You finally clear and a week later Yoshi turns around and says "actually we're giving everyone a free UWU title and every weapon." Would you be annoyed or would you just shrug and go "at least I get to tell people about how I watched the same fight over and over". You'd be annoyed, wouldn't you? And don't even try to say you wouldn't. t's human nature to want to have something rare. If they just gave out something you put effort into to other people for absolutely nothing you'd feel a little cheated and a bit silly, right?

I think that depends why you did it. Did you struggle through unenjoyable content just for the reward (and now it turns out you wasted that time)? Or did you do it because you wanted the experience, or to know you were good enough to beat it?