White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Tint]

Silly people don't understand that SE is making and running this game. If they decide to put this in as some reward for event they can do it. What you say or think ether for or against it doesn't matter its already set to be a reward for the rising. The End.

they also decided to open this forum and let us discuss and give feedback about the game.

when it doesn't matter what we say or think why they don't simply close the forums?

[InkstainedGwyn]

they also decided to open this forum and let us discuss and give feedback about the game.

when it doesn't matter what we say or think why they don't simply close the forums?

The cynical answer is: the illusion of control. Someone looking to express their frustrations that goes looking for an outlet and does not find one continues to stew. If they have a forum they can deliver their complaints to, even if they still Feel The Way, they'll come away thinking "I've said my piece, someone will hear it."

Granted, we do know they're listening, but the question often is, "what are they hearing"? When you complain about these earrings are they hearing "it is this specific item that bothers me" or are they hearing "I want you to preserve the sanctity of all 1.0 rewards"? When people complain about houses being demolished early and they come back with "emails are going out appropriately", it's a wonder if they're looking into the core issue or just grabbing one note of the squabble and calling it a day.

[Yoruichi4478]

The community back then was very small in comparison to what it has grown into today. That being said, I have to agree with Canadane. It's like stolen valor. How can you prove you cleared it unless what? you have a video of your historic fight clear? With the ultimate fights of today, you get a title to prove you got it done other than the weapon, we got nothing but the White Ravens. We have no title to show off like the Ultimate raid clearers. How about SE implement a title for us clearing Nael deus Darnus HM I had a GM once tell me when I was reporting on harrassment in-game, that they could go through every thing ever typed in chat I'd typed. I responded with, gl with that, I've been playing since open beta 1.0, you'll be there a good while. That tells me that in theory, they could go through that mountain of 1.0 data and find the players who cleared the fight then and provide them with a title. Altering their appearance or giving out new, entirely original event rewards would be a thing, this just speaks of laziness in part to re-use assets some have no other way of proving how they obtained them now.

[Tsalmaveth]

Erza, shhhhhh. You're not allowed to say that.

[Nestama]

Seeing someone with those earrings always invoked some respect for them as a skilled player.
It's something you earn with your skill. Much akin to Ultimate weapons.

Now if they handed out Ultimate weapons to everyone...

They'd have to hand out the Savage Weapons first (so far they haven't done that)
Also, you gotta stop making that comparison with Ultimate and Rivenroad (Hard). One fight will always exist (and possibly permanently level and ilevel sync'd), while another has been 'dead' since 2012 (and if it did, would be a cakewalk compared to T9, devaluing the effort 1.0 players put into the fight, which I feel would be worse than handing out earrings).

The exclusive Feast rewards would be a more appropriate comparison (since that's actually limited time rewards)... though I have a feeling that if PvP players were to complain, there's a chance the majority of the FFXIV playerbase (possibly even Legacy/1.0 players) wouldn't care how they felt.

[Nestama]

Was it required to beat Rivenroad (Hard) to get the "Once in a Lifetime" title?

[Vaer]

Was it required to beat Rivenroad (Hard) to get the "Once in a Lifetime" title?

No, IIRC you just had to clear Normal and do some other stuff afterwards. There is no achievement for clearing Rivenroad (Hard), just the earrings. I don't have the earrings and I have that achievement.

[Nestama]

Fair enough, but it's still something to prove "hey, I did a fight 6 years ago."

[Yoruichi4478]

Fair enough, but it's still something to prove "hey, I did a fight 6 years ago."

Yes, but how do you now distinguish the ones that people got from clearing the fight from the event reward ones? You can't. The Ultimate fight clear groups can by slapping on their title, we just have that earring as our title. Or we did, until this. Until this, there would be no doubt you cleared the fight to get them because there was no other way to get them, now that way of proving it will be gone.

[Nestama]

Yes, but how do you now distinguish the ones that people got from clearing the fight from the event reward ones? You can't. The Ultimate fight clear groups can by slapping on their title, we just have that earring as our title. Or we did, until this. Until this, there would be no doubt you cleared the fight to get them because there was no other way to get them, now that way of proving it will be gone.

Does it really matter that much to you if even 1.0/Legacy players who never did the HM fight get something that has been rendered into nothing more than a cosmetic item? You have a title to prove you did a fight that no one can ever do (be it normal or HM, you have something to prove you did the Nael van Darnus fight. If you recorded the HM fight and uploaded the video, more proof for you), you have an exclusive chocobo mount, an exclusive tattoo, your name in the credits and best of all, something that I would absolutely love to have, a subscription discount.

Honestly, I feel the people who should really complain are those who worked on their Relic. From what I can recall, making that weapon was a nightmare in 1.0 and then 2.0 comes along and almost hands it out like candy (Titan HM was a pretty rough roadblock).