White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[LyraKuroneko]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...805#post859805
Dev said this..
they think "it's not "ARR" it's StormBlood so is ok"...?

No devs, but community rep, but still XD this one is a fail on them.

[Lambdafish]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...805#post859805
Dev said this..
they think "it's not "ARR" it's StormBlood so is ok"...?

Are you surprised, there are so many things said back in 2012 that have been rendered false.

Popular examples include (paraphrased):

"Personal and FC housing will be separate"
"We will never implement a demolition timer, it is an archaic method of controlling housing"
"Mogstation will not have exclusive items" - This one was made hugely clear in a fan fest keynote, and was ironically ended with yoshi P chanting "no pay 2 win"

[LyraKuroneko]

Are you surprised, there are so many things said back in 2012 that have been rendered false.

Popular examples include (paraphrased):

"Personal and FC housing will be separate"
"We will never implement a demolition timer, it is an archaic method of controlling housing"
"Mogstation will not have exclusive items" - This one was made hugely clear in a fan fest keynote, and was ironically ended with yoshi P chanting "no pay 2 win"

For that, imo that is, SE had money problems after those were stated.
Because, as you know, now it makes money and/or saves some.

[Velhart]

Are you surprised, there are so many things said back in 2012 that have been rendered false.

Popular examples include (paraphrased):

"Personal and FC housing will be separate"
"We will never implement a demolition timer, it is an archaic method of controlling housing"
"Mogstation will not have exclusive items" - This one was made hugely clear in a fan fest keynote, and was ironically ended with yoshi P chanting "no pay 2 win"

They also said glamour would not make it into the game. Sometimes minds change for the better. Mindsets and policy can change over the course of five years based on feedback, reality of the situation, and what can benefit the players and the company. What was inappropriate one day, may be appropriate the next.

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As someone who beat Darnus(Hard) in 1.0 and got the earrings, why do you all care? The fight we got it from wasn't really hard and about 99% of you either don't wear it or threw it out for more inventory space. White Ravens were not even a legacy item, it is only a pair of earrings that came from that era. Legacy perks promised are still there. You got the exclusive chocobo, tattoo on your back, the story slightly altered to reference you and your 1.0 adventures, and the biggest one of all, the permanent discount on the monthly service.

[Ryulise]

Old earrings with a status, not as much soon, are given to people. They're earrings. Who really cares? Raid gear at first can be called an "exclusive" until you can unsync the content, where some mechanics can just be completely skipped.

What about adding dates to items, or at least gear? Unique items would be the easiest to do this with. Just add the receiving date. Crafted items could have the crafting date. Traded items could even have the original date.

[solracht]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...805#post859805

Sorry for the delay while we got confirmation for you all -- the White Ravens will not be obtainable in A Realm Reborn.

Just re-posting as quote+image for extra visibility. Thanks to ARR_ for the find.

[Velhart]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...805#post859805



Just re-posting as quote+image for extra visibility. Thanks to ARR_ for the find.

What exactly does this mean? He says it won't be and he wasn't wrong. It doesn't mean they could not reappear in the future in some way.

[Khai]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...805#post859805



Just re-posting as quote+image for extra visibility. Thanks to ARR_ for the find.

That quote is nearly six years old, though. The development team adjusted their plans since then. For MMOs, you can't take old quotes and always expect the development team to stay true to them forever.

[Zojha]

For MMOs, you can't take old quotes and always expect the development team to stay true to them forever.

That depends on the devs.

If you ever wondered why many devs say:"We have no intention to do X right now" instead of "We won't do X", this is why. Devs can stay true to the prior quote forever, regardless of what they do later, because they anticipated they might change their views in the future.

[Kallera]

That depends on the devs.

If you ever wondered why many devs say:"We have no intention to do X right now" instead of "We won't do X", this is why. Devs can stay true to the prior quote forever, regardless of what they do later, because they anticipated they might change their views in the future.

I honestly don't know what else players can say here. The devs were caught being lazy and dishonest. last time I checked, that can affect the trust between the parties involved in the promise in the first place. Legacy players have every right to be angry that the devs said one thing because they needed their compliance and did another now that they are successful.