Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
And why aren't more people speaking out on this? why are some accepting this? The thing is I do "speak with my wallet" I do not buy this overpriced crap, but that does not seem to be working.
Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
You know what's going to happen. People will either accept what the app is and pay for premium (whether it's voluntery or no choice), or not enough players will sub to it and SE will have no choice but to take drastic action. Additional space should not be locked behind extra costs (unless it's a retainer) as everyone has been crying for more inventory for a long time, yet we get a saddlebag that is no good in instances....

I really hope SE pay attention to all the feedback they are getting about the app.

Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
And why aren't more people speaking out on this? why are some accepting this? The thing is I do "speak with my wallet" I do not buy this overpriced crap, but that does not seem to be working.

Personally? I honestly don't care and I know that is selfish but i just don't.
I know this is a cliche but i see it as an optional thing. I know i will at least try out premium cause i see the benefits for my playstyle and what i find enjoyable in this game.

While I can understand people's concern this is just the start I think people are overthinking. People said same with Mogstation in 2014 and there have of course been negativity regarding that plattform since it was introduced but people have learned to accept it and so will people about the app eventually.

Why is people so vocal about a app with a super niche target but €18 glam and €21 mounts or Level/MSQ skip is getting more accepted?

Yeah it would be nice getting all these features (except selling on mb, that should be restricted to counter manipulation) but it's a business decision and nothing we say or do will change their stance on that.
If no one (won't happen, hi all whales out there) sub to premium they will still keep it in. I mean just referencing the thread you linked earlier and the dozzens of threads prior to that - did that change any outcome with the app development? No it didn't.

You may disagree with me but that's the facts and how I view it at very least. I...Just don't hope this means all we gonna get is questions regarding the app or state of microtransactions on fanfest, I'd rather get Q&A about like the next expansion and in-game related questions (please no butt sliders and oranges).

Quote Originally Posted by Cylla View Post
Edit - But to actually answer your question and I think you know the answer as well, there no point in speaking up these days. Just like with the housing situation, pagos, and everything else in between, it feels like a BIG waste of time. They aren't listening! We don't seem like valued costumers to SE. We try to get their attention here, we try on reddit, we try on twitter, we get met with nothing but feeling like we talk to a brick wall. And there only so much yelling the player base can do before they finally just throw their hands up and walk off and that what SE wants. It their way, or the highway, simple as that.
Lowkey, I think we dig our own hole in our community. We complain on so much stuff that don't matter that they grew tired of us. Yoshida even hinted jokes at us during some LL. Sad to say, I'm not that shocked.


Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
If you do crafting an selling on the marketboard, it is a paid advantage, as you get 20 slots for item selling with every paid retainer.

And don't forget the storage. If you really do active endgame crafting, with only 2 retainers you have to throw away alot of mats as you will run out of space. And you have to gather them again when new recipes appear. With more retainers you can store all of them. So you save time when a new patch kicks in. As faster you are ready to sell, the more gil you can make with it.

No pay2win? You really don't see the point?
No I don't. Gil isnt winning anything. I guess I've payed to win for years if we gonna say retainers is pay to win lmao.

Once you got your house (if you into that) gil serves very little to no purpose. Aside from teleporting what do you guys spend your gil on that you wouldn't be able to craft?