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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowde View Post
    Again, afaik, it isn't dmg that fills the Down Gauge but GCD hits on Rathalos. Weaving oGCD doesn't seem to help. So even for melee and tanks it's better to forego rotations to get more registered hits, f.e. interrupting combos to do Shield Lob, Tomahawk, Javelin, etc. when necessary if you need to dodge outside of melee range. Casters/Healers should only be using GCD spells with cast times shorter than the GCD cooldown to fill the Down Gauge.

    Once Rathalos is down everyone can do DPS rotations.
    While correct, you are missing my point entirely.

    DPS still get to play their classes, even if heavy movement restricts their DPS.
    As a healer I feel pretty retarded being a dispel bot in Phase II.
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    TBH I think they threw in the cleanse mechanics so healers have something to do since they were definitely not going to remove the healing down mechanic since they want you to use the potions like in MH.

    If you took that out healers would have nothing to do but to DPS which uh usually doesn't go over well.

    Not to mention if you don't need cleanse and healers end up dpsing you might as well just bring another dps if you can just pot some in the first phase or avoid enough damage where a lot of healing isn't needed.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 08-10-2018 at 03:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    TBH I think they threw in the cleanse mechanics so healers have something to do since they were definitely not going to remove the healing down mechanic since they want you to use the potions like in MH. If you took that out healers would have nothing to do but to DPS which uh usually doesn't go over well.
    Understandable, though personally, I wish they'd rebalance the fight to not include healers at all.
    At least that would be honest from the start instead of being gimped for half the fight, watching helplessly as people die around you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Understandable, though personally, I wish they'd rebalance the fight to not include healers at all.
    At least that would be honest from the start instead of being gimped for half the fight, watching helplessly as people die around you.
    you can still help increase the Down meter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Understandable, though personally, I wish they'd rebalance the fight to not include healers at all.
    At least that would be honest from the start instead of being gimped for half the fight, watching helplessly as people die around you.
    You would be excluding players with no other jobs leveled from doing it though.

    A better way would be a system where you would be "roleplaying" a hunter, and everyone gets a bunch of new skills more tailored to the content like dodge with a cooldown, the pots like now, and some damage skills. Everyone ends up having the same base abilities and maybe some extra ones depending on the role you are on like cleanse or block.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    A better way would be a system where you would be "roleplaying" a hunter, and everyone gets a bunch of new skills more tailored to the content like dodge with a cooldown, the pots like now, and some damage skills. Everyone ends up having the same base abilities and maybe some extra ones depending on the role you are on like cleanse or block.
    That would indeed be the best way to do it, putting everyone on equal footing, but I'm afraid that would not fit into the scope of a small promotional event anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    While correct, you are missing my point entirely.

    DPS still get to play their classes, even if heavy movement restricts their DPS.
    As a healer I feel pretty retarded being a dispel bot in Phase II.
    You are missing my point. As was already pointed out, you can still help to fill the down gauge. Filling the Down Gauge has nothing to do with Rotations. It's just as effective for everyone to press one or two buttons to accomplish this.

    If everyone else is dodging accordingly, then that is the main thing you will be doing. If someone does get hit, you get to be the hero that can remove status effect and help to prevent a wipe. WHICH is similar to clinch Life Powder/Herbal Powder use in MH to prevent a cart when somebody else get hit by the claw or stomp and is left at low life while stunned and poisoned.


    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Phase 1 is annoying, too.

    No telegraphs...

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    All of his attacks are telegraphed in Phase 1. You can tell exactly what he's going to do based on his posture before attacking.
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    Last edited by Rowde; 08-10-2018 at 03:30 AM.