Rathalos EX

[PerrinTaveren]

Hello. I managed to down Rathalos EX with a party i joined after 1.5 hours. All of us were new and we really stuck with each other till completion. It was nice and all.

Then it only gave us 1 Rathalos+ scale...

I said okay. Let's farm this.

I joined like 6-7 farm groups without a single down.

The problem is, fight is so random and mostly luck based, (it literally flew towards me the moment i spawned after death which i can't react THAT fast), i find it really REALLY bothersome to kill this thing 50 times.

I don't know if i am the only one. I think 10 or 25 would be enough. I don't know, maybe i will try at 4.4 unless they ilvl cap this.

[AppleJinx]

It drops all the tradable loot randomly just like every other ex primals

[Akira]

im with you after i get achievement ill likely even wait until 5.0 and do this unsynced at 80 the gear is ugly and the mount isnt worth doing this over and over again until i get it

[Bacent]

Eh, I'm planning on maybe doing like one win a day so I don't go buhnaynays on it...if I manage to clear it (Got to 30%-ish). But the fight relies a bit much on RNG (So if you die, it's because the game hated you), as well as very weird hit boxes, where you'd get hit by things that you shouldn't have, yet other times you could have had too close of a call with it and been perfectly safe.

[Osteichthyes]

I am not a fan of this fight at all. It's basically a huge middle finger to melee dps. I haven't played Monster Hunter, so I don't know how it translates, but the sheer amount of stun + dot makes this so unfun. Getting hit once is basically a death sentence. Not to mention being knocked back, stunned, then hit again before you can heal, and dying. The amount of damage the enemy does is just WAY too high. Even if I was to compare it to a souls game, you can take a few hits, and you have MANY more options.

This really just felt like Stone Vigil HM will more damage, shorter telegraphs, a healing limit (stack marker and roar), and a death limit.

I'm all for hard content, but this isn't hard. It's punishing, and punishing is never fun.

Edit: To be clear, I like content like this and I want to see more of it, but in it's current state, it isn't fun.

[Granyala]

I haven't played Monster Hunter, so I don't know how it translates, but the sheer amount of stun + dot makes this so unfun.

After 14 wipes, that is the basic statement my group buddies uttered. They all play MH, so contrary to me, they knew the abilities and stuff.
Imho, the combination of split second instagibs (thanks to Stun + DoT) in the second phase and the 3rd dead = wipe makes this so damn tedious that I won't even bother. Neither will they, and boy were they hyped up for the proto dragon mount.

Maybe, with more gear stuff will stop being instagibs and the encounter will be more manageable or maybe SE will tone it down a notch. As of right now, it falls into the category of "not woth my time because needlessly frustrating".

BTW: we are all savage raiders, currently progressing on God Kefka, so while certainly not hardcore elite, we aren't keyboard turners either.

I still can't get this done in ex. If I'm lucky to find a good party that gets to the final phase the problem here is that Rathalos gives no warning he's gonna charge you. He just turns and charges and any slight delay in latency and no matter how fast you run you cannot avoid being run down. I'm sorry but it needs tweaking because it's too unfair to people who aren't living right next to the data center.

Run as soon as he turns toward you. Do not try to finish a cast, just run. Always keep your eyes on the boss, never stand in front of him, ever.
His animations and tells are easily enough to decipher, the problem is, that if you are busy casting and not looking at him, he WILL surprise and instagib you.

Tedious and unfun, considering FF-XIVs game mechanics are basically incompatible: absolutely.
Unfair and luck based: not really. Not as range DPS anyway.

[Kyu-Momo]

Yeah, 50 for the mount is nuts. 25 would be more reasonable. (well, least it's not 99? but... with primals at least they have a chance to drop the mount while you farm it, so... yeah 50 is kind of pushing it) this patch is actually just: THE MINDLESS GRIND PATCH X

But yeah, I'll probably just do 1-2 wins a day so I don't get burnt out.

[JunseiKei]

Just went all out and got 65 kills pretty easily. The fight isn't luck - he faces you, he's attacking you. In the second phase, he always targets the person (target's name changes) he's going to use the poison claw on.

[PerrinTaveren]

By luck i meant this: if you stand close to him, you may not have the time to dodge that extremely fast dive move because he faces you and just comes at you. There is almost no cast time, so after stacking if you are unlucky he can just 1 shot you. If not, he can even target you again, and kill you.

It is random. Random = luck.

[Tsumdere]

Nearly 20 scales here - it's a super fun fight as long as you aren't with dips who will take all three deaths by themselves. Granted, I have been doing the 4 Tank strat and it's been smooth as butter. No need for pesky squishes. My DPS/Heal only friends do not like this fight.

Also, the Rathalos mount does drop from the fight! My friend has it after 2 runs. I just got a Poogie from the chest. >