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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    If you feel that this fight gives no warning to get out of the way, you are also wrong. Think launch day Titan HM. You just need to adjust to the pace of the encounter and react faster.
    You're wrong. A lot of people had to give up on launch day Titan HM because difference in latency meant they couldn't avoid mechanics that needed you to make a fraction of a second decision. Rathalos doesn't even give you much of a warning in the final phase that he's coming for you let alone whether you have a perfect connection or not, he just blinks at you and you're dead. At least Titan gave some indication that he was gonna drop a landslide or ground puddle underneath you. I'd have Titan HM over Rathalos any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    You're wrong. A lot of people had to give up on launch day Titan HM because difference in latency meant they couldn't avoid mechanics that needed you to make a fraction of a second decision. Rathalos doesn't even give you much of a warning in the final phase that he's coming for you let alone whether you have a perfect connection or not, he just blinks and you and you're dead.
    He only have 3 attacks in second phase:
    - Targeted triple fireball,
    - Fire spray directly in front of him,
    - Poison claw charge.

    That's it. If you're not in front of him, you never need to worry about the spray. If he's not charging up triple fireball, assume he is doing poison claw. Also, keep an eye on the name of his target - he literally does the mechanic at whoever is listed (even the triple fireballs). Same applies as first phase, being at his sides means he must turn to you, giving you extra time to react. He always does poison claw after triple fireball, as well. Rathalos also does a little "hop" (floats up, whatever) at the start of the charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    You're wrong.
    In your eyes perhaps. But in reality, I'm not. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but there really isn't any way to sugar coat it.

    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    Rathalos doesn't even give you much of a warning in the final phase that he's coming for you let alone whether you have a perfect connection or not, he just blinks at you and you're dead.
    He does, the fact that there are multitudes of people out there with 50+ kills attests to that. The warnings and signs are there, you just haven't learned how to read them yet.

    Stop blaming it on things out of your control and consider what you can do to improve your approach and you'll get it down no probs. I had to do a similar thing when I first approached Titan HM (gogo NA based EU servers, I feel your pain there).
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    yeah that is what happens to me too geekgirl101.

    I see him turn to him and before i can run he hits me.
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    Unlike in MHW you have no real way to dodge the attacks other than simply backing up outside of melee range which cost dps. I still think MHW got the better deal out of the collaboration as the Behemoth fight seems more engaging.

    Overall though I like Rathalos EX. Just wish they would have given us the Flagship monster instead of the classic rathalos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Unlike in MHW you have no real way to dodge the attacks other than simply backing up outside of melee range which cost dps. I still think MHW got the better deal out of the collaboration as the Behemoth fight seems more engaging.

    Overall though I like Rathalos EX. Just wish they would have given us the Flagship monster instead of the classic rathalos
    You can dodge and keep uptime unless he moves away from you then its a simple matter of following him
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    Uptime doesnt even matter. You could just use your ranged skills as a melee and still contribute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    It's random, but it isn't really luck. You just need to react faster and not try to finish a cast like the game usually allows you to do.

    Don't be greedy, never stay infront of him (This gives you more time to react when you see him spinning towards you), keep yourself topped and as a SCH, don't forget to spread Adlos off your fairy.
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    I play from the uk on a us server and while the latency makes this harder I know as a Rdm I can get two casts off and then move preemptively to avoid him most of the time, though still quite difficult and a pain when hit 5 miles to his left or right

    He is a random fight but once you get the feel for it it becomes a lot easier
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    Patience and a good group will get you the win. Got my win today and it felt good. But sadly unless I find a static I won't be able to do it as much as I'd like. :c
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    Wait. Isnt this what we want? A fight thats actually hard? We been asking for harder 4 mans for years. I say more of this please.
    But he isn't hard, that is the point.
    The hardest part about Rathalos is realizing that the fight design is incompatible with FF-XIVs usual gameplay mechanics and getting people to throw any semblance of "playing your class properly, maximizing output" out of the window and start chicken-running until he is down and safe to DPS.

    Hell, I can't even heal and am relegated to spamming a single frigging button in Phase II, how exactly is that supposed to be "hard" as a healer?

    Hard content: yes, sure. Bring it on.
    INCOMPATIBLE content that makes you incapable of playing your chosen role properly: I do not want more of that.

    To be blunt: If I wanted MH gameplay, I would play MH, not FF-XIV.
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