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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Strange... So graphically telling someone what you want to do with older women in a sexual manner while working on a volunteer media publication is strange.

    Telling someone to leave their SO because they're trash and to start a relationship with him instead is strange.

    Getting called a whore or slut, whenever upset is ...strange

    Ok, guess should change it to "Strange behavior" and not call a spade a spade.



    Absolutely agree. Had to help out a friend or two that also had the same position. Most of those cases (the ones I was involved in) were usually one person he said/she said type of situation. One case was a he said/he said. I get people's reservation in judgement, as well. It's something as you can see that can destroy a lot of friendships. Also in the cases I am talking about both sides felt remorse. Usually the worst cases aren't so straight forward either. However, these are usually exceptions and rarer against ones that are true. So again I agree about not being too hasty, but I'm not gonna also pretend that it's just "jealous people" that a lot go unreported because many don't want to rock the boat either.
    If I am not mistaken didn't one or two of the victims make the claim that they would seek legal action. So I will wait until then and let those who are smarter, trained, and have more experience handle this before I pass judgment. When an action can ruin someones life all together I do think waiting for things to play out on either side is the best course. While that information is being reviewed by those that are trained to handle such cases, the person that feels they were a victim of abuse or harassment should also seek professional help to aid with the healing processes. It just makes little sense to me why one one side of the story gets released to the general public and one side is enough to be 100% for the general public that it is fact.

    False accusations often burn bridges forever, and no amount of treatment or help will ever been enough to recover from that. Though treatment and help can be often lead to recovery for those who are victim of abuse or harassment. A lot of time until the person has proven their innocence they have hardly anyone on their side. Understand I am saying that the person did nothing or that all the alleged victims are lying, but that is just it at this point at this point everything is alleged.

    I am not saying that we should deny a person help because until all the facts are present, they should get all the help they need if they felt they were a abused or harassed in any shape or form, and those claims should be taken seriously, since I am will 100% agree that they personally could have felt abused or harassed. The judgement aspect personally I think should be handled by those that are trained, just like the medical aspect.

    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Yes, for the Doxxing along with the harassment. Not just because he said "STRAAAAAANGE THINGS"
    Are you okay? At this point coupled with the sea lion comment I cannot help but feel you are mocking me.


    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post

    Are you okay? You didn't actually look up the information, just guessing here? You decided to go with "1 or 2" yet ignore the fact we're talking about not only the dozens of Janes complaining about sexual harassment it's now downplayed to "strange" It can be very well read you are mocking the issue.
    All I am saying just as their are professionals that deal with treatment, they have professionals that are meant to handle the appropriate behavior. General public is not equipped with the knowledge or experience to make proper judgments when it comes to these cases.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    *sigh* And the circle continues. I'm just gonna say this and I'm out: We Are Not The Law. Square-Enix Is Not The Law. And probably the most important thing of all: THE MEDIA AND SOCIAL MEDIA ARE NOT THE LAW! If you find yourself party to someone's inappropriate behavior DO NOT post it on social media first. GO TO THE AUTHORITIES. It is not our responsibility to persecute or prosecute anyone for their behavior. If there is someone conducting inappropriate behavior then follow the steps in game to report them. If the behavior exists outside of the game, then the person affected needs to contact the proper authorities. To anyone who thinks everyone accused of something needs to be dragged into the Court of Public Opinion to be shamed: y'all need to take a step back and think about if it were you in that situation. None of this should be made public and should be handled behind closed doors between all parties involved. None of this bickering is solving anything. If you want to raise awareness for online harassment then do that by listing things to look out for and the steps to take to avoid them. Even sharing your own stories and how you overcame your adversity can go a long way to helping someone. Instead of arguing like children try to do something productive with this post.
    Thank you that is what I have been trying to say but could not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogatum View Post
    If I am not mistaken didn't one or two of the victims make the claim that they would seek legal action. .
    Yes, for the Doxxing along with the harassment. Not just because he said "STRAAAAAANGE THINGS"

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogatum View Post
    Are you okay? At this point coupled with the sea lion comment I cannot help but feel you are mocking me.
    Are you okay? You didn't actually look up the information, just guessing here? You decided to go with "1 or 2" yet ignore the fact we're talking about not only the dozens of Janes complaining about sexual harassment it's now downplayed to "strange" It can be very well read you are mocking the issue.
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    Last edited by QT_Melon; 07-09-2018 at 03:19 AM.

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    Oops double post sorry