Sexual harassment

[Rubiss]

It's very clear to me with this post that you do not understand what we are talking about. Have a good night, I guess. If you have some free time you may want to read about the laws on harassment, threats (particularly in relation to suicide or attack) and revenge porn. Maybe look up a few articles on why the victims of abuse can't so easily walk away. Perhaps then you can have an actual understanding of this conversation.

Again, I don't see how this is a FFXIV problem. If you think you can sue someone over harassment, then do it. But don't cry about it on FFXIV. You have more than enough ways to stop someone from bothering you. Again, this is online. Stop conflating it with real abuse. You can quite easily walk away from someone.

[Redname]

Again, I don't see how this is a FFXIV problem. If you think you can sue someone over harassment, then do it. But don't cry about it on FFXIV. You have more than enough ways to stop someone from bothering you. Again, this is online. Stop conflating it with real abuse. You can quite easily walk away from someone.

God you are even reading? I think your problem here is you never experienced something so intense. You never had a strong, deep relationship. Or you never trusted someone or put yourself in a vulnerable situation. Which is really sad cause you dont know how love feels.

You repeat and repeat like a parrot, that is victim fault. People can manipulate and use you and your feels to the point some people commit suicide. Then what, that is no abuse either? Turning the power off wont erase your relationship with that person or what you did with them (sexting, nudes, etc).

You can say is the victim fault. However I think they have enough shame and self hurt themselves for you to add more to the fire.
You can say its stupid they did that. Well yeah it is. But they didnt apply logic but feels. Now are you going to tell me you NEVER acted based on feels or did stupid things? Idk if you are a robot ,an AI or havent a pinch of sensitivity. But human beings need love and affection. And if someone take advantage of you using your needs...Well i think it shouldnt be defended like you did.
I think you lack a lot of experience. Go out and get some before shaming victims

[Baingoleth]

shaming victims

This keeps coming up in reply to some posts recommending that victims block, report, move on and be more careful in the future when someone starts to get creepy. I don't think most of the people giving that advice are trying to shame the victims. Rather, the impression that I get is that they are trying to advise preventative measures in the future. Sure, some of those posters are rather blunt but I don't think it means they don't care.

There are some posters in this thread who come across as uncaring and crass but they aren't trying to provide practical advice to prevent bad situations from escalating to sexual abuse. What they are doing is making jokes.

I see many posters in this thread who agree that sexual abuse is a terrible thing and also agree that it starts with manipulating people who already trust them. They just don't think anything more needs to be done other than educating people to be more cautious and even cut ties when someone you meet online starts to get creepy. Having that position isn't victim shaming even though the people who hold it might not be interested in showing empathy. The reality is that there are decent people who agree that sexual harassment is wrong but won't get emotionally involved unless the victim is someone close to them.

[Rubiss]

God you are even reading? I think your problem here is you never experienced something so intense. You never had a strong, deep relationship. Or you never trusted someone or put yourself in a vulnerable situation. Which is really sad cause you dont know how love feels.

You repeat and repeat like a parrot, that is victim fault. People can manipulate and use you and your feels to the point some people commit suicide. Then what, that is no abuse either? Turning the power off wont erase your relationship with that person or what you did with them (sexting, nudes, etc).

You can say is the victim fault. However I think they have enough shame and self hurt themselves for you to add more to the fire.
You can say its stupid they did that. Well yeah it is. But they didnt apply logic but feels. Now are you going to tell me you NEVER acted based on feels or did stupid things? Idk if you are a robot ,an AI or havent a pinch of sensitivity. But human beings need love and affection. And if someone take advantage of you using your needs...Well i think it shouldnt be defended like you did.
I think you lack a lot of experience. Go out and get some before shaming victims

You know nothing about me. Neither my gender nor what I've been through, who I've been with and at what level. You're making a lot of assumptions to support your argument, kid. You are in control of what you do online. Sexting, sending nudes, giving out your address, arranging offline meetups, that's you. Can you get blackmailed? Sure. But what do you want FFXIV to do? This is an MMORPG. Do you want the "abuser" banned? Okay. Then what? They can just make alts and keep harassing you. Right? Right? Right? So do you want them arrested? Okay. Not a FFXIV problem. Call the police then. It's up to you the "victim" to handle this. You were manipulated, you deal with it. I've been there before and I think individuals love calling themselves victim but often don't do much to prevent themselves from being manipulated nor go to much lengths to solve it.

It's your problem. The very best SquareEnix can do is ban them. Everything else is up to you and it's ultimately your problem.