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  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    Starting to think some people here have a personal interest in NOT dealing with this issue...
    It's just online. It's honestly a non-issue. If you gave nudes to someone online and were then blackmailed I mean... it sucks but ultimately it is your fault. You can't really be sexually harassed in a game, especially when you as a player have the tools to stop it, as well as a pretty supportive GM staff willing to assist.
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    It's just online. It's honestly a non-issue. If you gave nudes to someone online and were then blackmailed I mean... it sucks but ultimately it is your fault. You can't really be sexually harassed in a game, especially when you as a player have the tools to stop it, as well as a pretty supportive GM staff willing to assist.
    So we can't expect blackmailing to be morally wrong when it's done online? It's the victims fault?
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizensha View Post
    So we can't expect blackmailing to be morally wrong when it's done online? It's the victims fault?
    It's wrong, I never said it wasn't, but this is also just online. There are plenty of tools to deal with it. Letting it go on for months, even years, is completely their fault. This is ultimately just a game and this is the internet.
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    This is ultimately just a game and this is the internet.
    I honestly don't understand this part. Won't ethics or laws apply on internet in your opinion? Why?

    Edit: Also the threshold to report is quite high on abuse cases. I'm not sure what the time has to do with anything?
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    Last edited by Gizensha; 06-29-2018 at 07:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    It's wrong, I never said it wasn't, but this is also just online. There are plenty of tools to deal with it. Letting it go on for months, even years, is completely their fault. This is ultimately just a game and this is the internet.
    Rubiss,for once i 100% agree with you. Thanks for your input. To all of you posting about RL harassment, take note of what Rubiss said: This is way different. RL is much more serious, this is online....blist...logout....turn power of etc..
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    It's just online. It's honestly a non-issue. If you gave nudes to someone online and were then blackmailed I mean... it sucks but ultimately it is your fault. You can't really be sexually harassed in a game, especially when you as a player have the tools to stop it, as well as a pretty supportive GM staff willing to assist.
    Exactly.Yes it's still an issue, but way less serious,and very easy to deal with.
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelfei View Post
    Rubiss,for once i 100% agree with you. Thanks for your input. To all of you posting about RL harassment, take note of what Rubiss said: This is way different. RL is much more serious, this is online....blist...logout....turn power of etc..
    Don't you think people on internet are real? Why is crime done on internet not real? This is getting really bizarre...
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  8. #198
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelfei View Post
    Rubiss,for once i 100% agree with you. Thanks for your input. To all of you posting about RL harassment, take note of what Rubiss said: This is way different. RL is much more serious, this is online....blist...logout....turn power of etc..
    So your solution to something like this is just stop playing?
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  9. #199
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizensha View Post
    Don't you think people on internet are real? Why is crime done on internet not real? This is getting really bizarre...
    This can't be conflated to real abuse in any way. You can block said person from contacting you. You can't do the same in real life. It's nowhere near as easy. As for the blackmail bits, yes that was wrong and possibly illegal (not educated enough in the law to fully say) but I don't think there needs to be a big movement over something that is ultimately a very minor issue. You have all the tools you can ask for to deal with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    This can't be conflated to real abuse in any way. You can block said person from contacting you. You can't do the same in real life. It's nowhere near as easy. As for the blackmail bits, yes that was wrong and possibly illegal (not educated enough in the law to fully say) but I don't think there needs to be a big movement over something that is ultimately a very minor issue. You have all the tools you can ask for to deal with this.
    And the part where is escalated into a real life incident? This didn't just stay confined to the net.
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