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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    I'll counter that with a problematic aspect of this - in most situations, specifically of systematic abuse the kind of which that PCGamer article was about, you won't find evidence because the abuser is just that good at keeping themselves clean. Part of it is even being nice and proper with other people, so that when their victim comes clean, they'll have a series of character witnesses lined up to tell everyone how good and just they are. What evidence to wait for then when it's a situation created by the offender to begin with?
    I am not expect on the subject nor an investigator, but I am sure these types of cases take as long as they do to look into due to that very reason. Even so should we really pass judgement without having all the facts? That does not seem messed up in the slightest? Sure it may be a small chance, but what happens if people blindly follow the mob and it turns out the accusations were false that persons life is ruined, and the same could be said vice versa I agree. That is what makes these types of situation difficult, and as community we have the ability to enact switch judgement because we can act on our emotional impulses. Their must be a reason why the authorities do not, it is damning on either side no matter how you cut it. Maybe I am odd, but while I am sympathetic to the victims I do not agree with viewing someone as guilty until proven innocent because it is easier.

    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    The issue is, there's a lot of evidence in this case. Yes people lie. The deaf/voice chat one may just be to avoid questions on why. example: i hate meat, its gross and i dont know why people eat it. After years of just saying i hate meat then getting 50 questions as to why and im just not eating the right kinds or cooking it right, its far easier to just say im a vegetarian. I'm not. It's a lie. There are some meat products I do eat. But I got sick of the 50 questions and saying i'm a vegetarian tends to end up with "oh....ok" instead of more questions. Same can be said for voice chat esp if its because of anxiety or depression.

    However that is not what is going on here. Regardless the commentors backgrounds there should be at least a small about of sympathy or empathy to at least understand the situation. Not to immediately discredit it because of "your background" or "it's never happened to me so it never happens" or "everybody lies" kind of thing.
    Please do not get me wrong I never discredited the person I am sympathetic to them, as I said might be odd but I am not going to pick a side based off one sides story. I am talking generally about abuse not just this case.
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