[Lighthouse Spoilers] Can we please stop with the stupid fetch quests?

[KyokuhoKensaki]

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Like I said earlier, some of you really would be better off just playing something else. You have multiple MMO's to choose from. FFXIV is one of the few remaining that takes its world building seriously - respecting that, then, seems wise.

"Takes it's world building seriously." That's a laugh. There was no world building done. It was a pointless pace killer that contributed pretty much nothing to the overall Ivalice plot. And I'd rather see criticism than blindly sucking up everything and calling it the creme de la creme of mmo quests. When it's not. I'll "respect" it when the quests involved in a story line actually contribute to the plot.

[HyoMinPark]

I frankly Had to speak my mind since I find this pointless

With all due respect, you don’t have to keep checking in on the thread. You are free to leave whenever you choose, while others are free to continue to discuss or post their opinions on the matter. They are also free to enforce their opinions if they are contested—that’s the purpose of a debate.

I take issue with people trying to dictate what others can and cannot say or do. If you don’t want to be privy to the thread anymore, then move on.

get up in arms

This thread is myriads shorter than other threads. It’s mostly here to provide feedback. Though some posters seem content to try and tell others that their opinions are wrong and/or invalid, or to tell them what they can and cannot discuss on a public discussion forum, rather than just post feedback.

[alimdia]

Yeah feedback for a single quest that only takes a few minutes to do... Is this what people complain about now? Something they will do once and never again?

You, like Theodric, have been in these forums since 2013 and don't understand what's the objective of player feedback either.


Sendoh explained it in the post above yours:

yes, the "deed is done", the point of complaining is so that we don't get "done" like this again in the future.

This is not about modifying the current quest, this is about preventing this from happening again in future quests

The quest to unlock CT was very long and took a lot of travels fetching items (mind you, those items were far more lore-relevant to CT than this wine is to Ridorana) and after player feedback they made Syrcus Tower, World of Darkness, Void Ark, Weeping City, Dun Scaith and Rabanastre a more cinematic experience. People complained about all the fetch quests in ARR main story, and after player feedback the majority of HW and SB main story quests further the plot in some way.

It doesn't take 5 years to figure this out.

[Enla]

Like I said earlier, some of you really would be better off just playing something else. You have multiple MMO's to choose from. FFXIV is one of the few remaining that takes its world building seriously - respecting that, then, seems wise.

Except they really don't? Or do I need to go into how chocobos shouldn't be in Yanxia and why a Scion of the Dawn shouldn't even remotely believe they can reason with a tempered individual? The world building has always taken a second place to convenience and their own need to pull twists out of the air. There's nothing to respect when the writers themselves are all too keen on changing things for the sake of drama. Plus we already /did/ this quest with those two individuals back in ARR, learning Drent was from Dalmasca didn't add much of anything.

[Theodric]

Except they really don't? Or do I need to go into how chocobos shouldn't be in Yanxia and why a Scion of the Dawn shouldn't even remotely believe they can reason with a tempered individual? The world building has always taken a second place to convenience and their own need to pull twists out of the air. There's nothing to respect when the writers themselves are all too keen on changing things for the sake of drama. Plus we already /did/ this quest with those two individuals back in ARR, learning Drent was from Dalmasca didn't add much of anything.

The red chocobos have already been established as being native to Dalmasca. The quest itself mentions heading towards the border of Dalmasca to rescue Montblanc - so the implication is the pair of chocobos emerged from that general direction. Perhaps in search of food after being displaced by the chaos that befell their home region.

You, like Theodric, have been in these forums since 2013 and don't understand what's the objective of player feedback either.

Incorrect. You can bash others all you like, it doesn't make you words true. If people are not being constructive and they're just whining about some trivial matter being blown out of proportion then there's absolutely no worth to the feedback in question.

A considerable amount of the 'feedback' offered on this board isn't constructive.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

The red chocobos have already been established as being native to Dalmasca. The quest itself mentions heading towards the border of Dalmasca to rescue Montblanc - so the implication is the pair of chocobos emerged from that general direction. Perhaps in search of food after being displaced by the chaos that befell their home region.



Incorrect. You can bash others all you like, it doesn't make you words true. If people are not being constructive and they're just whining about some trivial matter being blown out of proportion then there's absolutely no worth to the feedback in question.

A considerable amount of the 'feedback' offered on this board isn't constructive.

Because blindly defending the quest is constructive? Get a grip on reality.

[Lauront]

No, though if you look through the post history of those complaining it's pretty clear that any inconvenience - however slight - is exploited as a reason to get up in arms. Even trivial, irrelevant issues are blown out of proportion and as a consequence feedback for genuine issues is overlooked. I don't blame Square Enix, either. The sheer amount of entitlement coming from the NA and EU discussion boards is extreme at times.

Like I said earlier, some of you really would be better off just playing something else. You have multiple MMO's to choose from. FFXIV is one of the few remaining that takes its world building seriously - respecting that, then, seems wise.

They'll find some tiny insignificant thing to harp on about in those MMOs, too. Especially since some of the newer ones are keen to re-emphasise just this sort of non-combat style content. Frankly, I didn't think it was that big a deal. Idk how some people get through leveling chars if they don't like this sort of quest, as they are by far more prevalent in leveling content.

[Lauront]

Because blindly defending the quest is constructive? Get a grip on reality.

He put forward good reasons for defending it; hardly "blindly" doing so, IMO.

[Theodric]

Because blindly defending the quest is constructive? Get a grip on reality.

I have a grip on reality, though I thank you for your touching concern. Now, you seem a little riled up over what is ultimately a very trivial matter. Might I politely suggest taking some time to cool off? Perhaps with a nice cup of tea and a slice of lemon cake? I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about the well being of some of the posters in this thread. It's genuinely worrying when a minor fetch quest that takes a handful of minutes stirs up mass hysteria among those perpetually seeking new ways to be outraged.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

Snippity Snap

It's less how long it takes and more how utterly pointless it is to the overall experience of the raid's story line. We learn absolutely nothing new about the storyline, like okay Drent is from Dalmasca. Oh goodie, a npc that hasn't been relevant in an eternity has some semblance of a connection to this plot! Are they going to go anywhere with this? No? Nothing? Oh okay. I guess that was a complete waste of a plot point that fell right on it's behind. People are mad about how utterly pointless of a quest it is in the grand scheme of the story line and the fact it's not a very fun quest in general. What part of that is hard to understand?