[Lighthouse Spoilers] Can we please stop with the stupid fetch quests?

[KyokuhoKensaki]

Continuation of nonsense

Why are we still going over any topic that gets made? Man it's been like three days, we should stop discussing the 24 man greed only topic because stuff's already been said on it. Its impossible for the topic to continue or evolve in some manner.

You are not the authority or be all end all person to dictate what we decide to discuss or spend our time on in the forums.

[Theodric]

You are not the authority or be all end all person to dictate what we decide to discuss or spend our time on in the forums.

No, though if you look through the post history of those complaining it's pretty clear that any inconvenience - however slight - is exploited as a reason to get up in arms. Even trivial, irrelevant issues are blown out of proportion and as a consequence feedback for genuine issues is overlooked. I don't blame Square Enix, either. The sheer amount of entitlement coming from the NA and EU discussion boards is extreme at times.

Like I said earlier, some of you really would be better off just playing something else. You have multiple MMO's to choose from. FFXIV is one of the few remaining that takes its world building seriously - respecting that, then, seems wise.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

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Like I said earlier, some of you really would be better off just playing something else. You have multiple MMO's to choose from. FFXIV is one of the few remaining that takes its world building seriously - respecting that, then, seems wise.

"Takes it's world building seriously." That's a laugh. There was no world building done. It was a pointless pace killer that contributed pretty much nothing to the overall Ivalice plot. And I'd rather see criticism than blindly sucking up everything and calling it the creme de la creme of mmo quests. When it's not. I'll "respect" it when the quests involved in a story line actually contribute to the plot.

[Enla]

Like I said earlier, some of you really would be better off just playing something else. You have multiple MMO's to choose from. FFXIV is one of the few remaining that takes its world building seriously - respecting that, then, seems wise.

Except they really don't? Or do I need to go into how chocobos shouldn't be in Yanxia and why a Scion of the Dawn shouldn't even remotely believe they can reason with a tempered individual? The world building has always taken a second place to convenience and their own need to pull twists out of the air. There's nothing to respect when the writers themselves are all too keen on changing things for the sake of drama. Plus we already /did/ this quest with those two individuals back in ARR, learning Drent was from Dalmasca didn't add much of anything.

[Theodric]

Except they really don't? Or do I need to go into how chocobos shouldn't be in Yanxia and why a Scion of the Dawn shouldn't even remotely believe they can reason with a tempered individual? The world building has always taken a second place to convenience and their own need to pull twists out of the air. There's nothing to respect when the writers themselves are all too keen on changing things for the sake of drama. Plus we already /did/ this quest with those two individuals back in ARR, learning Drent was from Dalmasca didn't add much of anything.

The red chocobos have already been established as being native to Dalmasca. The quest itself mentions heading towards the border of Dalmasca to rescue Montblanc - so the implication is the pair of chocobos emerged from that general direction. Perhaps in search of food after being displaced by the chaos that befell their home region.

You, like Theodric, have been in these forums since 2013 and don't understand what's the objective of player feedback either.

Incorrect. You can bash others all you like, it doesn't make you words true. If people are not being constructive and they're just whining about some trivial matter being blown out of proportion then there's absolutely no worth to the feedback in question.

A considerable amount of the 'feedback' offered on this board isn't constructive.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

The red chocobos have already been established as being native to Dalmasca. The quest itself mentions heading towards the border of Dalmasca to rescue Montblanc - so the implication is the pair of chocobos emerged from that general direction. Perhaps in search of food after being displaced by the chaos that befell their home region.



Incorrect. You can bash others all you like, it doesn't make you words true. If people are not being constructive and they're just whining about some trivial matter being blown out of proportion then there's absolutely no worth to the feedback in question.

A considerable amount of the 'feedback' offered on this board isn't constructive.

Because blindly defending the quest is constructive? Get a grip on reality.

[Lauront]

Because blindly defending the quest is constructive? Get a grip on reality.

He put forward good reasons for defending it; hardly "blindly" doing so, IMO.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

He put forward good reasons for defending it; hardly "blindly" doing so, IMO.

I found the defense lacking. Attempting to claim it establishes world building through an obscure reference from a throwaway NPC is the very definition of a reach. Had said NPC been apart of this quest chain, you could argue it better. He, however, was relegated to the side so they could animate wine bottle cut scenes. Regardless, both parties are entitled to their respective opinion yet we have a handful of people saying "it's short!" thus dismissing any opposing viewpoint.

[Theodric]

Because blindly defending the quest is constructive? Get a grip on reality.

I have a grip on reality, though I thank you for your touching concern. Now, you seem a little riled up over what is ultimately a very trivial matter. Might I politely suggest taking some time to cool off? Perhaps with a nice cup of tea and a slice of lemon cake? I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about the well being of some of the posters in this thread. It's genuinely worrying when a minor fetch quest that takes a handful of minutes stirs up mass hysteria among those perpetually seeking new ways to be outraged.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

Snippity Snap

It's less how long it takes and more how utterly pointless it is to the overall experience of the raid's story line. We learn absolutely nothing new about the storyline, like okay Drent is from Dalmasca. Oh goodie, a npc that hasn't been relevant in an eternity has some semblance of a connection to this plot! Are they going to go anywhere with this? No? Nothing? Oh okay. I guess that was a complete waste of a plot point that fell right on it's behind. People are mad about how utterly pointless of a quest it is in the grand scheme of the story line and the fact it's not a very fun quest in general. What part of that is hard to understand?