[Lighthouse Spoilers] Can we please stop with the stupid fetch quests?

[Remedi]

It could be said yes, but today is friday, the quest was done by most tuesday and since it's one way deal once it's done, it's done it won't matter anymore.
Meanwhile greed only is still affecting ppl today, it will do tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, the next week, the week after that, the next month until it'll be resolved.

I understand it comes off arrogant, but frankly if you stop just one second to think about it, is it really worth losing your mind over this? Ppl are starting to dicusss the context of the quest which will only degenerate in flame wars over personal opinion, because it's ppl like different things. I mean most posters are trying to debate how relevant or irrelevant to the story it was.
Frankly it was irrilevant and filler, but me saying that will just make ppl come in and tell how wrong I am to say that and it's very relevant to the story for whatever reason.
Since the objectivity of this topic has been exhausted and frankly most ppl of both sides seems to me that agree on what should've done, I honestly don't get why we are still going over this and frankly I'm not talking of newer posts in the thread.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

Continuation of nonsense

Why are we still going over any topic that gets made? Man it's been like three days, we should stop discussing the 24 man greed only topic because stuff's already been said on it. Its impossible for the topic to continue or evolve in some manner.

You are not the authority or be all end all person to dictate what we decide to discuss or spend our time on in the forums.

[Theodric]

You are not the authority or be all end all person to dictate what we decide to discuss or spend our time on in the forums.

No, though if you look through the post history of those complaining it's pretty clear that any inconvenience - however slight - is exploited as a reason to get up in arms. Even trivial, irrelevant issues are blown out of proportion and as a consequence feedback for genuine issues is overlooked. I don't blame Square Enix, either. The sheer amount of entitlement coming from the NA and EU discussion boards is extreme at times.

Like I said earlier, some of you really would be better off just playing something else. You have multiple MMO's to choose from. FFXIV is one of the few remaining that takes its world building seriously - respecting that, then, seems wise.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

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Like I said earlier, some of you really would be better off just playing something else. You have multiple MMO's to choose from. FFXIV is one of the few remaining that takes its world building seriously - respecting that, then, seems wise.

"Takes it's world building seriously." That's a laugh. There was no world building done. It was a pointless pace killer that contributed pretty much nothing to the overall Ivalice plot. And I'd rather see criticism than blindly sucking up everything and calling it the creme de la creme of mmo quests. When it's not. I'll "respect" it when the quests involved in a story line actually contribute to the plot.

[Enla]

Like I said earlier, some of you really would be better off just playing something else. You have multiple MMO's to choose from. FFXIV is one of the few remaining that takes its world building seriously - respecting that, then, seems wise.

Except they really don't? Or do I need to go into how chocobos shouldn't be in Yanxia and why a Scion of the Dawn shouldn't even remotely believe they can reason with a tempered individual? The world building has always taken a second place to convenience and their own need to pull twists out of the air. There's nothing to respect when the writers themselves are all too keen on changing things for the sake of drama. Plus we already /did/ this quest with those two individuals back in ARR, learning Drent was from Dalmasca didn't add much of anything.

[Theodric]

Except they really don't? Or do I need to go into how chocobos shouldn't be in Yanxia and why a Scion of the Dawn shouldn't even remotely believe they can reason with a tempered individual? The world building has always taken a second place to convenience and their own need to pull twists out of the air. There's nothing to respect when the writers themselves are all too keen on changing things for the sake of drama. Plus we already /did/ this quest with those two individuals back in ARR, learning Drent was from Dalmasca didn't add much of anything.

The red chocobos have already been established as being native to Dalmasca. The quest itself mentions heading towards the border of Dalmasca to rescue Montblanc - so the implication is the pair of chocobos emerged from that general direction. Perhaps in search of food after being displaced by the chaos that befell their home region.

You, like Theodric, have been in these forums since 2013 and don't understand what's the objective of player feedback either.

Incorrect. You can bash others all you like, it doesn't make you words true. If people are not being constructive and they're just whining about some trivial matter being blown out of proportion then there's absolutely no worth to the feedback in question.

A considerable amount of the 'feedback' offered on this board isn't constructive.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

The red chocobos have already been established as being native to Dalmasca. The quest itself mentions heading towards the border of Dalmasca to rescue Montblanc - so the implication is the pair of chocobos emerged from that general direction. Perhaps in search of food after being displaced by the chaos that befell their home region.



Incorrect. You can bash others all you like, it doesn't make you words true. If people are not being constructive and they're just whining about some trivial matter being blown out of proportion then there's absolutely no worth to the feedback in question.

A considerable amount of the 'feedback' offered on this board isn't constructive.

Because blindly defending the quest is constructive? Get a grip on reality.

[Lauront]

Because blindly defending the quest is constructive? Get a grip on reality.

He put forward good reasons for defending it; hardly "blindly" doing so, IMO.

[Theodric]

Because blindly defending the quest is constructive? Get a grip on reality.

I have a grip on reality, though I thank you for your touching concern. Now, you seem a little riled up over what is ultimately a very trivial matter. Might I politely suggest taking some time to cool off? Perhaps with a nice cup of tea and a slice of lemon cake? I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about the well being of some of the posters in this thread. It's genuinely worrying when a minor fetch quest that takes a handful of minutes stirs up mass hysteria among those perpetually seeking new ways to be outraged.

[Enla]

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And yet when the Doman refugees arrived in Thanalan they had never even seen a chocobo before let alone even knew what they were. It's a huge lore discrepancy to go from people not even knowing about them to suddenly having Dalmasca not only having them, but being right near Doma to begin with. I also very much doubt, given how tales of impressive animals could spread even in our history, that news of a giant bird that could summon meteors wouldn't make it's way across the short border. It's one thing to add stuff later, and something I feel one should be fairly accepting of given the long and storied history of how the lore team often quarrels with the quest team for relevancy, but it's still a discrepancy all the same. They do better than most but they should not be put upon a pedestal.

Likewise a detour that retreads very old ground, I did some searching and we knew he was from Dalmasca long before this as I've found posts from last year that reference it, and that seems purely to remind us these NPC's exist and to pad out the run time does not add in any meaningful way to the world building. Especially when it comes at the expense of pacing.