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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Alright, I'll bite. Let's see where this goes.

    You yourself have attacked a lot of posters
    I have not. I only defended my self after being attacked by someone in question. How come you do not say this at NephthysVasudan? or have you have that person confused with me? So you expect me to be insulted over and over again and not say anything? Why do you think it is ok for people to insult me and not me to say anything? or the lack of forum moderation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    I have not. I only defended my self after being attacked by someone in question. How come you do not say this at NephthysVasudan? or have you have that person confused with me? So you expect me to be insulted over and over again and not say anything? Why do you think it is ok for people to insult me and not me to say anything? or the lack of forum moderation?
    Because unlike you...I don't make stuff up and then make it a mountain of trouble on a string.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Because unlike you...I don't make stuff up and then make it a mountain of trouble on a string.
    And your posts are generally more pleasant to read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupa View Post
    And your posts are generally more pleasant to read.
    I could do a better job honestly...but thank you.

    <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    I have not. I only defended my self after being attacked by someone in question. How come you do not say this at NephthysVasudan? or have you have that person confused with me? So you expect me to be insulted over and over again and not say anything? Why do you think it is ok for people to insult me and not me to say anything? or the lack of forum moderation?
    While I have had my disagreements with Nephthys in the past.....

    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Because unlike you...I don't make stuff up and then make it a mountain of trouble on a string.
    They have a point.

    Refraining from ad hominem (like calling someone an SE apologist for just losing patience with your lack of coherent arguments, for example) and hyperbole generally help. As well as not arguing with every poster on the forums who just happen to disagree with you on X topic.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 04-27-2018 at 04:47 AM.
    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

    마지막 날 널 찾아가면
    마지막 밤 기억하길

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    I have not. I only defended my self after being attacked by someone in question. How come you do not say this at NephthysVasudan? or have you have that person confused with me? So you expect me to be insulted over and over again and not say anything? Why do you think it is ok for people to insult me and not me to say anything? or the lack of forum moderation?
    Oooo...this was FUN! Please explain where this hostility came from then? NOTHING in that thread(from the below quote) was directed straight at you. I was having a conversation based on the screenshots you shared in there from the live letter. Yet, what's this? Hostility towards me? And as the above(bolded, italics, and underlined for your convenience), supposedly I would have attacked you first. I will wait while you provide your sources of where I attacked you prior to the point below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    Are you BLIND??!?!?!

    https://i.gyazo.com/28c4f176c861d610...23df6514cd.png

    moogle COINS, the app IRL money currency.
    https://gyazo.com/0d39b2105bff95ad3ee520582743d684

    So with moogle COINS (the thing that is not the log in bonus currency) lets you list/ price change/ and buy off the MB

    Moogle NUT, the log in bonus only lets you BUY something off the mb:
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...4_04.26.40.png
    That means in order to price change and to sell something, it is only available with the transaction currency and the only reason it is listed for "free" (my guessing anyway) is because you can buy the currency without the sub.

    This app is P2W, no matter the how small the impact it makes to "PvE" or "PvE" it is still P2W, you are paying IRL money for an advantage over someone that does not.

    stop nitpicking what "win" means. It is not speculation, right there on the damn slides.



    yup, it was largely ignored because it is not a big deal (helps that no one fully exploit it to my knowledge)now you are enabling FULL market control, because of the sheer number of retainers and quick access to price changes with this P2W app. It is the app though that crossed the line and made it worth noting, stop with increasing p2w elements.
    PS: I always cover my ass when looking up sources, or going to someone with problems. Knowing your stuff is winning the battle.
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    Last edited by Avatre; 04-27-2018 at 03:32 AM. Reason: Spelling

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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Oooo...this was FUN! Please explain where this hostility came from then? NOTHING in that thread(from the below quote) was directed straight at you. I was having a conversation based on the screenshots you shared in there from the live letter. Yet, what's this? Hostility towards me? And as the above(bolded, italics, and underlined for your convenience), supposedly I would have attacked you first. I will wait while you provide your sources of where I attacked you prior to the point below.

    PS: I always cover my ass when looking up sources, or going to someone with problems. Knowing your stuff is winning the battle.
    Don't hold your breath I've been waiting for some responses with sources a few weeks now myself... chances are they will just go to a different thread or start a new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Don't hold your breath I've been waiting for some responses with sources a few weeks now myself... chances are they will just go to a different thread or start a new one.
    Oh, I know. But I love calling people out on their BS more than I love steak and potatoes(and I mean I LOVE a good steak and baked potato enough to kill someone who tries to deny me having that for dinner)
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Oh, I know. But I love calling people out on their BS more than I love steak and potatoes(and I mean I LOVE a good steak and baked potato enough to kill someone who tries to deny me having that for dinner)
    Lol Sooo true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    I have not. I only defended my self after being attacked by someone in question.
    I just want to make one thing clear from reading so many of your posts. There are people on this forum that have literally referenced sources against incorrect statements which you have posted, without insulting you at all. Yet, you have thrown insults right at them, when all they did was correct you and provide you with creditable source material.

    If you consider debate with counterarguments presented with source material with no insults by the poster "insulting". Then there is a communication issue with you and you need to work on it.
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