Quit Ruining The General Discussions

[KaivaC]

I blame SE for not communicating tbh, if they responded more, people would not feel complied to be heard by making their own thread. There are threads here that even did the "mega thread" route and they get ignored too.

What did you hope to achieve by this? surely you saw your self this could been seen as "another negative" thread? You could spun this differently to try get people to do more "mega thread" type mentality to overall achieve the same point, doing it that way wouldn't sound so "people bashing"

but even with that we saw the "mega thread" thing not work so now what?

Alright, I'll bite. Let's see where this goes.

You yourself have attacked a lot of posters - if the point of your complaints was to highlight a lot of the things that the devs are doing wrong, why feel the need to attack other posters who have disagreed with you? Even in the beginning of some of your threads, when things began civil, you started telling folks that either 'they don't understand', or 'they are white knighting', or 'they just don't want to see that they are wrong'. If you are so convinced that we should have better communication (which I do happen to agree with, we share the same point on that matter), why sabotage all the complaints you've been making by...insulting those who disagree with you? Even when I addressed you in another thread, even when I stated that while I disagreed with you, you had some valid points; everything that you insisted boiled down to 'my way or the highway'. As just an example, you want better communication, but why would the devs want to communicate if every complaint thread is chock full of insults back and forth? You had good intentions, I'll give you that - but it does no good if personal insults are what you resort to just to get your point across. It does no good if you attack folks who disagree even slightly with one point and agree with another - the way you've been carrying on, it's as if those who have split opinions on you are essentially in 100% disagreement with you, which sometimes is not the case at all.

Again, it's fine to complain. But complaints lose their value once you start insulting others, and then reminding them that you are unsubbed or unsubbing. Now, my response here was specific to you. The start of the thread was not. Keep that in mind.

I'm getting tired of people fixating on one word in my post and not reading them.

My point was that we would end up with "approved" negative topics. People would be just as negative about things like "how bad players suck in savage pugs" or in duty finder in general, because it's a topic that apparently people can be negative in one way and its ok, because we all know how bad baddies are. A good example in the past were topics on royal menagerie; if you even suggested it might be hard for a story fight, watch the wagons circle around and watch people get jumped on no matter how civil they were.

So if we are telling people to stop being negative and bringing the forums down, i want it all across the board. I don't want to hear your grumbling about the playerbase or how hard savage is because of all the pugs. Get rid of the "tales from duty finder thread," that's as negative as anything out there because it constantly fosters the idea this playerbase sucks and can't even do simple things.

You are tired of people fixating on 'one word', but that's exactly what you did with your last couple responses. And you missed the point. Yes, I have complained before...but I didn't go around reposting it or variations of it multiple times in a short timeframe (which in this case is mere days). At the worst, I waited a good few weeks before starting either on another subject or a related subject. I didn't flood the front page with comments about related things - I barely left my own thread to engage others in discussions. You fixated on a few points and missed the rest of what I have been saying. But, I'm glad you brought up the Tales from the Duty Finder. See, the thing about the duty finder thread is...it's a vent thread that is consolidated. You don't see vent after vent after vent within a few days of how badly people did in an instance. The few times people do post outside of that thread, they are usually new to these forums. Do I expect or want that to happen with everything else? No...that's not what I'm suggesting. People are rightfully angry - it's the repeated threads popping up one after another in such a short succession that I feel that it's become overwhelmingly negative in GD. As far as savage pugs, the player base, and all that other stuff is concerned, that's something for another time, likely by somebody else.