4.25 and beyond

[ShanXiv]

people repeat this but it means nothing if the game was so good and just needed some touch up how would a few small patches to make things better get 490k players to join and stay?(a number to match ff14 arr at its lowest ever) i mean the content was already amazing as you said so what was the big thing that stop people from enjoying the game like you did?

First, you are misleading something.
10K ONLINE players(actually, it was 16k-25k) =/= 10k total players,
there was 800-1500 ONLINE players in my server , (now, it's 1.5k-3k maybe)

16k-25k * 4-5, that's ~70k-100k players were playing XIV 1.2x
1.0 had sold about 500-600k copies? ~15-20% players were keep playing the game

now it's 10m players, but only 490k stay? lol.... that's 4.9%, many people came here, then moved to the next fotm games, and you call this successful?
I think XI had the same amount of players during its prime time.

[Musashidon]

First, you are misleading something.

no i am not 1.2 ended with only 10k players total these are SE own numbers not mine.

also we are above 500k currently not sure how much as we only get vague numbers when i use the number 500k its as a lowest ever number not a current number.
last i heard i think yoshi p put us at about 1 million not sure someone will prolly fact check me eventually.

10 million accounts made take that as you will not players total ever. it's a hype thing se does to get people to play sort of like WoW uses the whole 100million accounts made but they only hold a couple million players so yea retention is about the same.

everyone has their own idea of successful being the second largest mmo isn't being successful? well idk i can't really argue against your opinion seems alittle moot.

[ShanXiv]

no i am not 1.2 ended with only 10k players total these are SE own numbers not mine.

also we are above 500k currently not sure how much as we only get vague numbers when i use the number 500k its as a lowest ever number not a current number.
last i heard i think yoshi p put us at about 1 million not sure someone will prolly fact check me eventually.

10 million accounts made take that as you will not players total ever. it's a hype thing se does to get people to play sort of like WoW uses the whole 100million accounts made but they only hold a couple million players so yea retention is about the same.

everyone has their own idea of successful being the second largest mmo isn't being successful? well idk i can't really argue against your opinion seems alittle moot.

10k(16K)online players =/= total players ....
... LOL ,ok say whatever you want,

some facts:
1.2x, 11players in my FC were online


1.2x an open world party content, it was danger & fun. (now what? FATEs?)


1.2x a player event ,protect Ul'dah! (they are lovely aren't they)


1.2x, before server shut down, people stayed until the end


ARR launch, my FC(most of them came from 1.x) , the hype was high, and because 1.2x contents werer fun, we had high hopes for the future,


current XIV, only 5/249 players in my FC, are online, server isn't going shut down, but where are the people

[Bourne_Endeavor]

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You realize I can log into Balmung right now and take screenshots with more than triple the amount in the clips you showed from 1.0, yes? None of this proves 1.x more successful. What does prove its failure is despite being free, people still refused to stick around. They literally couldn't give the game away due to horrendously poor coding and design. Furthermore, you are comparing people's complaints now to fresh 1.x. When ARR released, few complained about it being stale and boring. These complaints have come after four years. Your whole comparison comes across incredibly disingenuous. And quite frankly, reeks of bias.

[VanilleFang]

5/249

So are you saying like 200 players thought 1.x was better than ARR? So 200 people enjoy obviously broken games, and performance issues, and maps that were literal mazes? There is a reason ARR came to be and why it is considered one of, if not, the biggest come backs in gaming history.

Still 200ish players thought it was better and left. What is SE ever going to do? Obviously your FC is representative of the entire population as a whole! Yes where are all the people? Oh right, they're in Limsa Lominsa.