4.25 and beyond

**Ayer2015** · 03-13-2018 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by Kohdo

I'm honestly interested how many of these "game sucks bye guys" threads actually end with the authors genuinely quitting the game, even temporarily. FFXIV isn't perfect but to say there's nothing to do is a bit much. If you don't like it, just go. I seriously doubt they listen to feedback from non-JP players anyway.

You will never know, since they lose forum access.

**Remedi** · 03-13-2018 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by Ayer2015

You will never know, since they lose forum access.

He implies that some have been threatening that for years however

**Ayer2015** · 03-13-2018 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by Remedi

He implies that some have been threatening that for years however

I was unsubbed for most of 3.x. People go and come back. I mean if Yoshi really thinks subbing for 2 months every 2 years is sufficient to keep the game going.... who am I to argue.

The whole point of this thread is that the content we get provides no real reason to stay subbed. I can enjoy 2 years worth of content pre-expansion and not bother with unrewarding tomestone gear treadmills. Apparently that is good design to some, but clearly from all the replies it is not to many.

**NovaLevossida** · 03-13-2018 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Ayer2015

The whole point of this thread is that the content we get provides no real reason to stay subbed. I can enjoy 2 years worth of content pre-expansion and not bother with unrewarding tomestone gear treadmills.

The real kicker is since almost all of the content in this game has no real difficulty to speak of, when you come back and run it with higher ilevel players, it's not any less challenging. It's just faster, and it's not any more or less interesting than it was at release.

**LaylaTsarra** · 03-13-2018 01:53 AM

We're getting a whole special area for relic and people don't even give it a try before complaining we get nothing new that is worth while. I suppose SE should have just recycled the relic in the same way they did for the last couple go arounds given they never can seem to make some people happy.

**Remedi** · 03-13-2018 05:32 AM

I wouldn't go as far to say that forum really has any value in determining the how many ppl really like or not something, most of the times this threads degenerate in an echo chamber of same-minded individuals that really wall themselves off calling anyone who doesn't agree a white knight or an apologist, tell me if that is a way to get a conversation or even a remote way to sway ppl to your wiews because imho that definitively is not.
I mean according to this thread 1.0 was the best thing ever for the mayority no?

Now you took a long break that's fine but some ppl are threatening each patch that this is the last one if it suck they'll be gone forever, which has become extremely annoying.
When wow became unbearable to me for what the company was deciding of doing in wod I took and left, didn't post on the official forum saying that they should've kept what I liked or else I was leaving.

However take note that I for one would like some long lasting goal and quite frankly in my opinion they got close with the first anima stage (the unidentified items one) because the system was a long goal that you could tackle in many ways and also imho the fact that you required specialist items, meant that you needed help from others making so you would've to interact with others (or just MB if you were rich)
However ppl complained and honestly ppl always complained about any lenghty relic/anima steps and imho if we want to have a discussion about long-term goals in the game we cannot really whitewash the recent of the community about ANYTHING that requires a tiny little bit of extra effort.
Sometimes we are also responsible for what comes to us and I can assure you that once Eureka comes out you can expect ppl complaining about relic requiring the spawn of timed monsters but no1 will actually remember why we have come to this point.

**Mchappy** · 03-13-2018 05:38 AM

OP and anyone else in thread who puts a lot of hope and expectations into any sort of content are going to be sorely disappointed. You're just sitting yourself up to fail if you give one specific piece of content (in an MMO with so much to do) as the pinnacle of you keeping your sub or not. See how Eureka is tomorrow, if you're not feeling it then take a break for a while. If it's everything you had wished for- enjoy!

**Laerad3993** · 03-13-2018 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

We're getting a whole special area for relic and people don't even give it a try before complaining we get nothing new that is worth while. I suppose SE should have just recycled the relic in the same way they did for the last couple go arounds given they never can seem to make some people happy.

Id have preferred both methods being in game (grind like old or Eureka for those that wanted a change) for people to have a choice if they ended up not liking Eureka(or if it just ends up being Diadem), but that would never happen.

**YISUG** · 03-13-2018 09:14 AM

meh , Eureka is prob going to be kill 8489423847 mobs until you reach the cap then go get your weapon from what they shown in the LL

**Remedi** · 03-13-2018 06:44 PM

I'd say that the real reason we lost the extra hard mode dungeon is because otherwise we would've run out of dungeons of which making hard mode by now.
Remember that they are made them because they simply reskins existing dungeons to cut dev time, imho what they said about focusing on other projects might be true, but the dev time saved by cutting the dungeon frankly doesn't add up

I mean it was a PR stunt, it's like when yoshida said creator was going to have something no1 ever did in a MMO, you know it was not going to happen.

Or like when blizzard said that garrison would've been buildable on all draenor's zone, that too was not going to happen

edit: mmmh the rewards are picking my interest and seems they want to invalidate what I did yday yei

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