Thread: 4.25 and beyond

Originally Posted by ToasterMan

You mean more content were I gather the mats for an entire project all by myself and then ask 3 other people to stand in the workshop while I build it all because the game won't let me if I'm not in a party? Gonna pass

I think he means more FC content orientated in general. a very big complaint this game has had since 2.0 is that FCS are nothing more than glorified chat channels. there is absolutely nothing designed for free companies to do or work on together really. hell back in 1.0 one of the old concepts was freee companies working together and obtaining primals that the fc could then summon.

the other issue is everything is designed to be soloable. and I mean everything. even group content. by and large you queue a roulette or something and the 3-23 other people in the group may just as well be bots... this is why so many of the connections players make with each other at on such a superficial level level. it's almost like facebook when someone says they have 1000 friends. or the big fcs that have 500 members ask any of those memebers how many members they can name without looking at the list or if 100 of the members suddenly left how many of there neames would you remember....... that's how meaningful those connections are.

I joined a farm last night and with exception to one friend I couldn't tell you the names of anyone that was in it. or even there jobs to be honest. there's just no connection between players or community.

the game has been in terrible need of some actual group building content for ages. the best we got was potd 101-200. which 4 of you could do together.
but even then people were trying to marathon 51-200 in a single session because the connections between friends were so superficial there's no way you'd do 30 floors today and then rely on those 3 people to turn up tomorrow or next week to do 30 more.... so then all you saw was pf groups saying 51-200 and then endless complaints that it was impossible to do because no one joined those groups because t hey didn't want to do 150 floors in the same session..

I would kill for some real FC content that actually REQUIRED free companies working together as a team and building bonds between members. but also allowed everyone to be included. not this 4-8 man stuff where if you got 5 6 7 9 10 11 people online that want to go you're screwed.

Honestly, I am not surprised more and more people feel this way. Sadly the forums mean nothing, and everyone will try and defend the game they love (and why not)
The one way you can show SE that this never ending treadmill needs to be changed is to not sub.

Originally Posted by Pomelo

Honestly, I am not surprised more and more people feel this way. Sadly the forums mean nothing, and everyone will try and defend the game they love (and why not)
The one way you can show SE that this never ending treadmill needs to be changed is to not sub.

I think when it comes to people defending the game they love, it's more a result of an unspoken concern that changing the formula would mean removing what currently exists and works. Plenty of players enjoy the raid/primal/dungeon/msq setup that comes with the new patches and such. The idea of shaking it up and doing something new seems to hold this... vibe that all those things would have to be torn down or drastically changed.

It's one thing to add something new to the game to try and expand on the formula, and another to throw out the formula and make an entirely new one.

Originally Posted by Pomelo

Honestly, I am not surprised more and more people feel this way. Sadly the forums mean nothing, and everyone will try and defend the game they love (and why not)
The one way you can show SE that this never ending treadmill needs to be changed is to not sub.

entirely personal opinion here. but I tend to think that's what players are doing anyway. heavensward and stormblood both apparently bought millions of new players to the game but the active playerbase seems to be exactly the same it was in 2.0.... or is the impression I get from lodestone sweep things..

and if the player base was that much bigger they'd have had to add a lot more new servers so kinda suggests its not really grown much there either...

so sure new expansions brings players in but they seem to be leaving just as quickly..

but again just my take

I love the game, been playing for 3 years now and continue to enjoy new and current content. Thank you for the devotion to the game Square.

did i ever tell you the definition of insanity?, Insanity is doing the same ****** thing over and over again

Originally Posted by kyomaZZ

did i ever tell you the definition of insanity?, Insanity is doing the same ****** thing over and over again

You had the quote partially right, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”.

Originally Posted by kyomaZZ

did i ever tell you the definition of insanity?, Insanity is doing the same ****** thing over and over again

Give me an example of a game where this doesn’t apply.