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    4.25 and beyond

    As one of many people who are thoroughly bored at present with the types of content we are getting, if Eureka fails to be entertaining (which I hope turns out not to be the case), I think it may be time to come to terms that this game is only worth playing when new expansions launch.

    Fingers crossed March 13th turns out to be a breath of new life into a game which has become increasing stale. My expectation at this point is Cactuar-Shirogane Ward 18 will have a vacant plot shortly.
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    Kinda beginning to feel the same way here
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    I'm in the same boat. I'm actually going to be taking a break starting from April. I've recognized the signs of when I'm in a burnout and it doesn't help that SE is more or less being very linear in the way they develop and release content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    I am not having high hopes for Eureka personally
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    If it does end up sucking maybe SE will realize they can't just pull money from the game and give stupid small budget back, imo it's really what's killing the game, just not enough money flowing in to implement all the stuff they would like to, then again maybe they just like linear gameplay.
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    My subscription ends next Friday, and I don't intend to resub even if Eureka is well designed. I want Eureka to be good for the sake of the community, but the fact of the matter is that even if that's the case Eureka is still entirely removed from the rest of the game. As someone that will be finishing the last of the Anima Luxes in a few days, after having finished the Zodiac Zetas late last month/early this month, there just isn't anything left to do here as a medium-/long-term goal. Unless I want to sit in a box, probably by myself after each rush of a new step subsides, and toil away for glamour (/5.0 leveling gear) purposes.

    This is very much the sort of game that you subscribe to for a month or two at the very end of an expansion/start of a new expansion, catch up, and then wander away for ~2 years though. Nothing on the gameplay front has any lasting value and keeping up with it patch after patch is more "exhausting chore" than it is "fun pasttime" at this point, at least for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    If it does end up sucking maybe SE will realize they can't just pull money from the game and give stupid small budget back
    This is the absolute last thing that would cross their mind. More likely they'd look at the data and come to the conclusion that the content was too hard or viewed as too inaccessible by the community at large. Or something equally misguided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post
    This is the absolute last thing that would cross their mind. More likely they'd look at the data and come to the conclusion that the content was too hard or viewed as too inaccessible by the community at large. Or something equally misguided.
    I agree it's unlikely but hey maybe, never hurts to pretend ^^
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    Do you have all Jobs, Crafters, and Gatherers at level 70?
    Are those jobs all relatively well-geared?
    Have you cleared the current EX Primals?
    Have you cleared O8S?
    Have you cleared UCoB?
    Have you cleared all forms of older PvE content?
    Have you solo'd PotD 200?
    Do you compete in Ranked Feast Seasons?
    Do you play Frontlines & Rival Wings?
    Do you compete in Triple Triad & LoV tournaments at the Gold Saucer?
    Have you collected every mount, minion, and relic weapon achievable through in-game means?
    Have you earned every achievement?

    If your answer to any of these is "no", then there are still new things you could be doing in game. Just because you don't do them or personally don't enjoy them doesn't mean they aren't worth mentioning. However, there is most certianly room for improvement on Square's end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laigerick View Post
    If your answer to any of these is "no", then there are still new things you could be doing in game. Just because you don't do them or personally don't enjoy them doesn't mean they aren't worth mentioning. However, there is most certianly room for improvement on Square's end.
    You seem to have missed the point of the OP. Here, let me help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    As one of many people who are thoroughly bored at present with the types of content we are getting
    I bolded the key word for you.

    Dungeons every patch, 24-raid, 8-raid, and primals are the same type of content we've been getting for nearly 5 years now.

    HW had a couple of new things, PotD and Diadem. One of those was, as I previously mentioned, a complete flop. It doesn't instill much confidence in those who want new types of content when they fail that badly.
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    Last edited by MomomiMomi; 03-10-2018 at 08:20 PM.

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    I'm not letting this slide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laigerick View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laigerick View Post
    Do you have all Jobs, Crafters, and Gatherers at level 70?
    Yes.
    Are those jobs all relatively well-geared?
    The ones I play? Yes. I could, if I were so inclined to care, craft full sets of i350 gear for each and every one of them. By myself. With minimal effort. For relatively cheap.

    Counter point: The weekly restrictions in this game are horrible. While I can craft infinite i350 gear, it'll take ~2 months to gear any job using Tomestones. RNG and time commitment were I to also pursue Savage for gearing purposes - at the expense of others, because the Savage gearing system is also pretty horrible. The very idea that my overcoming the challenge of clearing the 4th floor of a raid tier isn't my price for farming the gear is anathema to me. No, clearing the "hardest" fight of the tier only unlocks the privilege of yet another fucking weekly lockout. Can't even go help other people clear without hurting them by their clear having (at least) 1 fewer chest/direct drops.

    Have you cleared the current EX Primals?
    Cleared from Sophia through Susano while relevant. Was on a break during Shinryu, don't care enough to bother with Byakko since I have i350 weapons and will be unsubbed soon. I would, undoubtedly, have zero trouble clearing these were I to go hop into the fray right now. Square, however, has conditioned me to just wait for the mount drop rate increase before actually farming.

    Have you cleared O8S?
    I've raided in this game before, in a static with Midas and casually doing the PUG life towards the end of Creator. I find nothing fun about wiping ad nauseam because one or two people don't know the song and dance well enough. Certainly, I don't find it fun to experience that just to - again - unlock another weekly lockout.

    Have you cleared UCoB?
    If you don't like raiding, there's zero chance that you'll like Ultimate. Which just by its nature magnifies the things that I find most irksome about Savage.

    Have you cleared all forms of older PvE content?
    Everything except A3S, A6~8S and A11~12S. Level synced, not item synced. Finding people to do them with after they're no longer relevant is somewhat challenging. I burnt most of my friends out with our synced ventures into BCoB/SCoB/FCoB early-/mid-HW. We played with A8S a little bit at lv70 unsynced, but they weren't feeling it so we dropped the idea.

    Have you solo'd PotD 200?
    Fuck off. Exactly one person in the entire world did this because it was clearly not designed for it. Layers upon layers upon layers of RNG =/= challenging. I made it to 160F solo, blind, and wiped to the boss at ~20% because I was exhausted and failed to restock Sustaining Potions before entering in addition to my (final) Pomander of Steel wearing off. I've cleared 200F with a party. I have all of the silly Padjali weapons, and a Kinna. Content complete by any reasonable standard.

    Do you compete in Ranked Feast Seasons?
    I don't particularly like playing in traffic, no. There are so many things wrong with Feast before we even get into discussions about how horrendous the matchmaking, lack of rank decay and generally short-lived queues come into play though.

    I have the Gloria-class Airship, Fenrir Pup, Faepup and Hellpup from playing enough Feast in general, however.

    Do you play Frontlines & Rival Wings?
    I no longer do Frontlines. Prior to 4.0 Frontlines was my endgame activity of choice - I didn't like Shatter very much, loved Seize, and 72-man Secure (/Secure in general) was a great experience. 4.0 ruined PvP and I have no interest in it. I have the Logistics System, Aerodynamics System and Flame Warsteed mounts. I was about halfway to my Serpent Warsteed mount when 4.0 hit.

    I'm at 50/100 Rival Wings wins for the Magitek Avenger with a 65% or so win rate. I haven't been able to muster up a whole lot of enthusiasm for it; originally because every single match timed out due to exceptionally poor design/balance, and post-break now because of constant connectivity issues, increased queue times, and everyone's favorite: Bots. It's infuriating being one or more mechs down because the bots just push lanes.

    Do you compete in Triple Triad & LoV tournaments at the Gold Saucer?
    Nearly two years ago, yes. I'm missing a single TT card released before 4.2, I have all of the LoV-exclusive minions, and I used to do both tournaments weekly even after finishing to afford other stuff. I'm ~120k MGP away from purchasing the Korpokkur Kolossus, which is the final MGP-exclusive item remaining. I've been ~400k away from it for months and, again, just haven't been able to muster up enough energy to really care about it. Yay Fashion Report, I guess.

    Have you collected every mount, minion, and relic weapon achievable through in-game means?
    I have every Zeta in the game, and every Anima has been 260+ for about a year. I have 4 Luxes remaining. Just need to do the light farming (3~4 hours per) and the primal victory lap (~2 hours synced via DF per). I'm missing 46 minions in total, counting Mog Station, promotional and past seasonal events. Of those, about 8 could be obtained via farming of random content I've done dozens of times without luck thus far anyway. And the Faustlet from the aforementioned failed venture into A8S. Mounts are all over the place; I have 71 of them. 2 Warsteeds, the 3 lv61+ tank mounts and the A12S mount are notable on the missing column. Astrope, like your post, can bite me.

    Have you earned every achievement?
    #3 on my server and roughly 700 points away from being in the Top 100 for the entire game. A decent chunk of the achievements that I'm missing are no longer obtainable - be they Seasonal Events from before I even started playing or PvP modes that have been completely devoid of life for 2+ years - and many more are just asinine. If I spent dozens of hours farming up worthless gathering items, or spent hundreds of hours crafting worthless items, I would very easily break into the Top 100. Woo. Exciting. Absolutely the type of gameplay we've all been looking for!

    Have I told you to fuck off yet? Well, fuck off.

    Just because you don't do them or personally don't enjoy them doesn't mean they aren't worth mentioning.
    They're literally not worth mentioning.

    Anyway, thanks for the bait. It was delicious and entertained me for a good 30 minutes because god knows the game itself can't accomplish that these days.
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