Why?

[Vstarstruck]

By that logic, should dungeons be scaled based on party size, thus allowing you to solo them? The whole purpose of FFXIV in general is group activity. They want to incentivise partying together, and that stance isn't going to change.

Threads like this makes me feel people are actually serious when they play really badly to force a 30+ minute run in the duty finder, try to advice them, then they reply with "you do not play my sub" I thought it was just a meme but people are serious apparently.

To the op, people answered why, it is because you were not in a party, that simple

[LeeraSorlan]

Threads like this makes me feel people are actually serious when they play really badly to force a 30+ minute run in the duty finder, try to advice them, then they reply with "you do not play my sub" I thought it was just a meme but people are serious apparently.

To the op, people answered why, it is because you were not in a party, that simple

im confused at this...do yoou realize how flawed the system currently is?

Tell me..why should someone who tanks an entire S rank/Fate not get full credit simply because they were not in a party..when derpy mcbard over there used straight shot one single time in a party of 8 and went afk to go make a sandwhich and came back to full credit? thats a heavily flawed system

[Lilseph]

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Responding this and your comment above, I don't see any issue with the current system.

It encourages you to group with other people if you want full credit. Not even as a tank you're guaranteed to get full credit btw. If the monster dies super fast, you won't have the chance to build enough emnity to get enough credit for it. The example you mention is an issue with every aspect of the game. People sometimes will get carried. You name it: Dungeons, trials, raids, FATEs (you can even kill stuff and move to the other FATE as people still finish the one you left), other overworld content. The only thing YOU can do is to concern about your own thing. Get a group, you'll know that most people will contribute, get the credit, thank them and leave. Easy. I don't see any issue with it.

Why is the "soloing" part so important when it's so easy to party up with others (as they are damn spamming/inviting others to do it). Specially in an MMO. Coming from old school MMOs, this request (OPs) seems silly, I'm sorry.

[LeeraSorlan]

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my issue with it is that it doesnt encourage playing with a party, it more or less requires it..if you are doing any sort of popular hunt or fate thats current where there are hundreds of playing, you are basically not going to get full credit solo, id go as far as to say its impossible. thats my issue..sure its easy to join a party, sure youll get full credit in a party...but why cant we do both? if getting full credit out of a party was an achievable feat..not including the times where theres like 10 people around the hunt but upwards of 200+ then id have no complaints, even if it required you to be good at the job you are playing to get that full credit

[BillyKaplan]

my issue with it is that it doesnt encourage playing with a party, it more or less requires it..

You must've been a world of fun when you discovered Sastasha.
This is an MMO, and this is open world content. The end-game of open world content. If there're 100 people there, fight gets shorter, you have less time to built up your credit. Makes sense you'd party up with other people between the shorter time and the more people to compete against. There's also absolutely zero reason to not party when you stop to think about it because you're keeping yourself out of utility and heals.

[LeeraSorlan]

You must've been a world of fun when you discovered Sastasha.
This is an MMO, and this is open world content. The end-game of open world content. If there're 100 people there, fight gets shorter, you have less time to built up your credit. Makes sense you'd party up with other people between the shorter time and the more people to compete against. There's also absolutely zero reason to not party when you stop to think about it because you're keeping yourself out of utility and heals.

Allow me to direct you to unsynced content. Every dungeon in this game can be soloed. For a new player? unrealistic, but soloed regardless. why give instances the treatment and not the overworld? fates can already be soloed, normal ones.

[BillyKaplan]

unrealistic, but soloed regardless. why give instances the treatment and not the overworld?

1. You're totally ignoring it but the game forces you to play in groups for the vast majority of it. Tons of content can be ran unsycned and you'd still need a party for it. So no, unsync isn't the be all end all solution to group content, especially since you can't even unsync most of it when it's relevant.
2. Because you're not influencing anyone's gaming experience when you run content solo'd. You do when you're running around in the overworld. That's the difference.

fates can already be soloed, normal ones.

You'll notice those are the ones that give you dirt for awards, too. And funny you're hanging onto FATEs because FATEs either sync you down, or still require an army to clear even at 70 (hi Odin)

[Lilseph]

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This example and the previous answer.

Yes, you can unsync dungeons, but you don't receive neither gil, exp and mob drops. A person trying to solo it (To progress, at the required level/ilvl) is punishing themselves because things would die awfully slow and there won't be any reward attached to their kills until they complete their dungeon. Loot after booses? If they get there.

Also, if you had the option of not needing a party of overworld content, then why would the party system exist anyway? People would solo the sh** out of it. You have solo content in form of instances within certain quests, but that's about it. Then you have your hunting log, some FATEs you can solo, but overall it's more beneficial for you and the party if they go and do it together. I see no reason to not do it an an MMO. I understand I won't change your mind regarding this subject, but you're thinking that people should have the option to solo group content, when they are present. I mean, you can. You want full credit, go ahead and solo it. ALONE. No one else. Then you'll get full credit. If you can't, it's because either people also found it, teamed up and burned it or the challenge goes above your level of gear/profiency with your job.

[Vidu]

my issue with it is that it doesnt encourage playing with a party, it more or less requires it.

Surprise! Neither A/S-rank-hunts nore big boss fates are supposed to be solo content - you cant solo those FATEs and except for the outdated ARR A-ranks you can solo those hunts either. They are group-content and you're already doing them as group even if you dont join a party. So dont fool and hurt yourself on pretending those are in any way content you can and should do by yourself, because you cant because the content isnt meant to be that way.
All group content requires a party. This is group-content (even if its a little different than a dungeon or raid) - why should it be different? And why is it such a problem to type a quick "please inv!" into the chat, join a party, get your credit and leave again?

[Vstarstruck]

im confused at this...do yoou realize how flawed the system currently is?

Tell me..why should someone who tanks an entire S rank/Fate not get full credit simply because they were not in a party..when derpy mcbard over there used straight shot one single time in a party of 8 and went afk to go make a sandwhich and came back to full credit? thats a heavily flawed system

A MMORPG encourages people to work together for something, not soloing everything. Joining a party is not hard or talking to people. Maybe you find more fun in the dot hack series, it gives you the feel of an MMORPG while being single player.