This is why this game should'nt get a parse

[Yeol]

The problem is,most of people,even if you tell them nicely,will just get mad if you tell them the numbers are not good.

They need to start acting like adults.

[Gleipni]

They need to start acting like adults.

I would like to,but the FF playerbase is largely the "im offended" type,i had a static once,a player was totaly underperforming,he told me " i dont see why i should improve since we killed it" the thing is,he was 6th rank in dps in the group.without a parse,we would have no clue he was bad,and never wanted to improve.

[Zeonx]

Another one of these people.

Yep, you don't care about how people feel when you boot them out of party's and I don't care getting people banned.

We have something in common.

Difference being I am doing something good getting rid of someone who miss uses a thing that isn't allowed in FFXIV.

You are taking out aggression on someone who is causing you to lose in a game.

[HyoMinPark]

Yep, you don't care about how people feel when you boot them out of party's and I don't care getting people banned.

We have something in common.

If a person enters content they aren’t ready for, that’s no one’s fault but theirs for jumping into something they aren’t ready for. Same thing for people who want to be carried. Why should I feel sympathy for someone who is looking for a carry, or hoping that the rest of the party will just pick up their slack? They obviously didn’t care for the rest of the group when they decided to burden them by either being woefully unprepared for the content, or by refusing to pull their weight.

It’s really sad that you would actively try to ban people just on the basis of parsing. Even if they aren’t being dicks about it. And don’t think that it makes you any better than the bad apples in the parsing crowd. It makes you just as petty.

I would like to,but the FF playerbase is largely the "im offended" type

I don’t think that’s a mentality exclusive to just FFXIV in this day and age, to be fair lol.

[Gleipni]

Yep, you don't care about how people feel when you boot them out of party's and I don't care getting people banned.

We have something in common.

Okay lets make thing clear,FF content DO NOT care about your feeling,its not because you feel bad to no clear something that the content will per magic clear itself,its only if you try to improve yourself that other people will see that you improved etc...or you do the same wrong things again and again hoping that people will not care and carry you through content.

[Ameela]

If there was an in-game parser I feel like a lot of people would probably improve because of it.
I know that until pretty recently I had no idea my damage was so poor and it wasn't until my friends who play on PC and can use ACT told me about it and I actually tried to improve.
Yeah there are people who won't try either way but there might also be a lot of other people who simply don't know how they should improve, or even if they need to improve, because the game doesn't have a parser.

[Zeonx]

Let me get something straight.

No win is perfect not only one person is at fault I have seen people die and then the one with the program quick to jump on a single person even though they didn't die until the end.

As for the reporting thing GM's do it here on forums also.

Even if the poster has good intentions if they make one fatal mistake on a post no matter if people defend their actions they are still temp banned and goes against them for not following the rule sets.

Same for game there are rules to follow and in the end if you don't follow the rules even if you speak up on the forums or defend that persons actions for kicking out a player from group you will suffer the same fate as the forum users who mess up and nothing you say or do will fix it.

So what makes it wrong for me getting people who aren't following rules in game for using a 3rd party program versus good people who just want to play a game?

So you say its okay when it clearly isn't and has been said many of times by GM's and Yoshi himself that not to use it against people but you have some sort of thought in your head its okay and the parse should be okay to do so if your time is wasted lolol.

[HyoMinPark]

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Yoshi-P has said many times that the GMs turn a blind eye to parsers and parsing in general so long as it’s not abused.

So, now I ask you: why report an individual who is using a parser but not harassing anyone with it? Especially since the developers are aware of the fact that a lot of raiders use parsers and have said they incorporate a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy about it, and won’t do anything to them so long as they aren’t harassing people?

[Zeonx]

Yoshi-P has said many times that the GMs turn a blind eye to parsers and parsing in general so long as it’s not abused

People abuse it all the time, I have seen it first hand how many people get cussed out before getting kicked. Just because a few of you that are good hearted fix that issue.

That is why it will never be allowed cause the ones who use it for bad intentions will hold all the good ones back maybe that's the crowd that needs a talking to but because of the way they are it will never happen.

I have never reported people with good intentions but they miss use it to put someone down its fair game.

[Gleipni]

What you dont get,is that when someone is playing poorly,it does not affect only him but the WHOLE party,its a bit like if in a FPS game you would say "thats unfair that people kicked me because of friendly fire,not my fault i can't aim well"
And one thing you said is totaly false

No win is perfect not only one person is at fault I have seen people die and then the one with the program quick to jump on a single person even though they didn't die until the end.

Well,thats not the parse fault but the whole groups fault here,i dont get your point here,the guy has some ego problem and ? it dont change the fact that more that 1 people failed there,you should look at the real problem unstead of focusing on some guy wherabout.