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  1. #181
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    Tangster85's Avatar
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    Tangman Selarispar
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 70
    I feel I must reply to the poster above mine, because you're simply put..wrong

    Imagine you played bard at level 60 (last expansion, a reasonable assumption) and you leveled to 70, not completing your lvl 70 class quest to get refulgent arrow, which is a new ability. Troubadour does nothing for your DPS and the other skills are dots last longer, which one can argue doesn't necessarily effect your DPS in the same way as getting new rotational abilities does, we agree?

    Splitting post in two, because 1000letter cap.
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  2. #182
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    Tangster85's Avatar
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    Tangman Selarispar
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 70
    This is a friend doing o1s among his first times, or his very first time as a Bard, who does not have the lvl 70 class quest completed, and sort of being new to the bard class.
    https://www.fflogs.com/reports/zAZct...-done&source=4 - 4.3k DPS lacking a very high potency ability. You can clearly see rotational mistakes to a person new to a class, including and not limited to dropping the dots on the boss, using 2 songs on pull and the list goes on. This goes to prove that making a mistake or two, is not a reason your DPS dives by 80%. There are more culprits behind extremely low throughput.

    You shouldn't join this "The night is dark and full of terrors" group of people who are defending low performance, instead you should become a person who uses guides and freely available information to become better. Nobody asks you to get 100percentiles, but you should surely be able to do more than gray if you do your rotation (with however many abilities you may have, or are missing).
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    Last edited by Tangster85; 01-01-2018 at 03:10 AM.

  3. #183
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    Axl Stream
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Okay please, let's not murder the OP here.
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  4. #184
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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Report them. They're not allowed to talk about parser in game, specially if it is used to harass others. Also, I think is a bit worrying a tank more concern about DPS than tanking.

    The best way to stop that is not having any mercy with that people.
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  5. #185
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    Hood Rat
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Report them. They're not allowed to talk about parser in game, specially if it i used to harass others. Also, I think is a bit worrying a tank more concern about DPS than tanking.

    The best way to stop that is not having any mercy with that people.
    Everyone should be concerned about dps when the actual dps are doing less than tanks and/or healers.
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  6. #186
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    Hruodig Hruodiger
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Report them. They're not allowed to talk about parser in game, specially if it is used to harass others. Also, I think is a bit worrying a tank more concern about DPS than tanking.

    The best way to stop that is not having any mercy with that people.
    Psst: dps is everyone's job in this game.
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  7. #187
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tangster85 View Post
    Splitting post in two, because 1000letter cap.
    You can bypass this restriction by editing your post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Report them. They're not allowed to talk about parser in game, specially if it is used to harass others. Also, I think is a bit worrying a tank more concern about DPS than tanking.

    The best way to stop that is not having any mercy with that people.
    All jobs DPS. If the tanks and healers aren't contributing, you're forcing the four DPS to all perform at a 95% level otherwise you simply won't clear. Putting that much burden on them is no different than DPS who stand in AoEs only to whine at the healer for letting them die.
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  8. #188
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Charisma View Post
    Well this forum turns into a playfield for elitists more and more anyways, a post literally saying "people are allowed to be an ass, when your dps is ass too." getting 40 likes just tells it all about this forum.
    Because poor DPS shouldn't be held accountable for their poor DPS, but the second a healer or tank screw up, it's time to tar and feather them for not "playing their job properly"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Report them. They're not allowed to talk about parser in game, specially if it is used to harass others. Also, I think is a bit worrying a tank more concern about DPS than tanking.

    The best way to stop that is not having any mercy with that people.
    If you had read the thread, you would have come across the posts of the WAR and the AST in that group who both said nothing was mentioned about parsers or DPS numbers. That being said, I ask again why are DPS roles not allowed to be held accountable for their poor performance, but tanks and healers are crucified the minute they make a mistake?
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 01-01-2018 at 04:42 AM.
    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

    마지막 날 널 찾아가면
    마지막 밤 기억하길

    Hyomin Park#0055

  9. #189
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Report them. They're not allowed to talk about parser in game, specially if it is used to harass others. Also, I think is a bit worrying a tank more concern about DPS than tanking.

    The best way to stop that is not having any mercy with that people.
    And these people call us toxic...
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  10. #190
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    Baalfrog's Avatar
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    Alysanai Holt
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    Cerberus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hruodig View Post
    Psst: dps is everyone's job in this game.
    #NOTMYJOOOOB
    -forums healers and tanks

    (obvious sarcasm, please dont lynch)
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