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    This is very very very interesting, this was asked to Yoshida and his answer..
    Q. Can you please make a players guide for new game pad users? Beginners don't even know the existence of the lodestone, so i had a hard time when i started playing lol.

    A. The beginner's guide is always a pain in the neck, because beginners tend to skip or avoid reading text. The only other way is to create a dedicated UI for beginners.....


    Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._server_other/ This goes strongly for reading tooltips etc too, too many players don't bother reading and skipping things they --should-- know. Now I know I know, it's not about reading tooltips etc, but ignoring whats on your screen is a step backwards for many players.
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    Last edited by akaneakki; 01-04-2018 at 05:29 AM.

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    Man, I'm tired of seeing this thread pop up over and over again without the drama I really crave. OP lied and the people they lied on called them out. I wanna see what half cocked defense they have for that, not the tired old parser debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Man, I'm tired of seeing this thread pop up over and over again without the drama I really crave. OP lied and the people they lied on called them out. I wanna see what half cocked defense they have for that, not the tired old parser debate.
    OP isn’t gonna come back, sadly.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

    마지막 날 널 찾아가면
    마지막 밤 기억하길

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    OP isn’t gonna come back, sadly.
    I was somewhat expecting them to say sorry it was a mistake,but I was wrong. You can tell they are ashamed for saying something that's not even true.
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    The fight will never end because the ones who used persers will never see anything wrong with it and the one who do not will see the world fult on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LastFireAce View Post
    The fight will never end because the ones who used persers will never see anything wrong with it and the one who do not will see the world fult on it.
    Even this statement I disagree with: people can abuse parsers. The numbers can be used to shame and harass. The contention I think a lot of pro-parsers have is, it's not worth denying a useful tool because of the minority who abuse it.
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    If you ask me, its simple. Numbers don't lie, they are numbers - people on the other hand lie.

    If you do low DPS, parser is not a tool to put blame, its a tool to wake you up from your slumber in which you imagine yourself a good player. I'm going to ignore the dying to everything, because that rarely wakes bad players up.

    Imagine a butter knife, it can be used to spread butter or kill people. It just depends how you decide to utilize it.

    If I tell you that your DPS is very low for a 340 Machinist, you can get really upset how someone on the internet is rude, or you can do something about it. A parser here will help you, if you however are of the first category, then I'm sorry but parses are not your only problem, you've got way bigger ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangster85 View Post
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    Agreed. I've fallen off of raiding lately to take care of other things I want to do in-game, but the occasional times I have run savage as my RDM, I will ask for my parse number and only mines. Thus far at ilvl333, I'm hitting 3.7k, so I have a lot of room to improve. Why did I bring up my number just now? Well, for those who don't understand why my number irritates me, I can just look up in fflogs my number compared to the other RDMs who've done the same fight and figure out what they did that I didn't. Honestly, I'm rather disappointed that I could only hit 3.7k.

    To the anti-parser crowd, I didn't have any drama, didn't cause any fights by requesting what my number was while we were farming. So why is this a bad thing? Or even a personal parser so you can have your own numbers available when you need it, and then compare it to what you can look up in fflogs?
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    The problem is most ppl don't have parser and actually they are all blind. this is called unconscious incompetent.

    Yes you are too good and you can see everything without your eyes but most ppl can't do that.
    So some ppl suggested "you can google how to do your job."
    Oh god how do ppl created the guide? Did they use parser?
    So you rely on the 3rd person using the tool and then believe yourself absolutely never used the said tool?

    This game absolutely needs built-in parser, because parser is unofficially but practically accepted by Yoshida.
    He never tells the great RAID groups trying not to parse when everyone seeing the parsing screen on youtube.

    I don't care SE does not make it. But I really care ppl said "we" don't need it as "we" actually need it.
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    Last edited by Nicobo; 01-04-2018 at 12:12 PM.

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    I didn't say to be a god. I meant in my exemple "if you are playing with 3 gods, it doesn't mean they are carrying you if you are already way above the average". Which is not about an overall situation (that's when I used the word god).

    I end to believe you put effort in order to be in disagreement.

    On top of that, it's to mean we are free to improve or not when reaching such a state (and everyone said here is was ok to be good enough (I guess like a 5.2k dps sam currently) and that overall people will tell you nothing for this). Then performing above is required if you are in a group (static) aiming for this. I don't believe people to try doing time records when playing with PUG but only to clear without dying (which is a way to mean it'll be quick). When with random players, I prefer to end my Ravana Ex at 1rst try than wiping 3 times in a row because not everyone agree about skiping the butterflies part or not (and risking some are unable to pull their weight to do it). It's about the real time irl it took, which matters more to me when playing with randoms than the final time it did which can't be an awesome score with random players anyway (of course, it's different if it's a farm group where it's better to aim for skipping phases in order to farm way faster).
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    Last edited by Fannah; 01-04-2018 at 06:33 PM.

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