Black Mage

[Llugen]

I mean, I see no need for drain to me "meaningful" outside of soloing with your chocobo for an extra blip if you need it. The point of the role system is to be situational and take what you need when you need it, and it feels like it works just fine, albeit not very strong.

Wouldn't be surprised if we see a use for break in the next tier with heavy on a mob. Erase definitely needs looked at, though (and crutch, but that's melee).

[Remedi]

The problem is that drain is essentially a deaweight that could be filled by something else, there's no situation for you to take it ever and the problem is we already have more useless skills compared to other roles.

Even Break is not that great especially when you compare it to Blizzard 1 of pre SB which was stronger, though I agree that they could make a mechanic needs it, though in that case I would prefer it to be instant.

Edit: Frankly they could've just gave the aoe bind skill to the role action since they think that all casters need an aoe bind (that no1 will use) instead of creating a whole new skills for RDM

edit: BTW I think that Mana shift should be looked at too since when you compare it to refresh........I mean come on.....

[Remedi]

Incidentally I remembered that in Halatali there's the mammet that gives an AOE manawall.
Since the skill is in the game datas they could give us Manawall back, adjusting it to work will both magical and physical dmg and whatnot.
I mean it's no DMG buff but it's something (which depending the content can be considered good or not)

[Sylvain]

I have to admit, I am confused by how the team handle job balance

Y.P said that the team working on boss battle design are veteran raider and that they actually complete the fight internally to ensure it is feasible (mechanic wise at least)

Assuming the team working on overall game balance is a separate one, (which means they're better at math than playing the job themselves), I don't understand how they can't be aware of BLM struggles.
Y.P can't be the only one playing BLM seriously. And even if he'd be, he should see all the drawback this job has and expect the team to do something.

I don't even understand how ultimate coild was validated by Y.P. Either they have big change in store for BLM and felt it wasn't worth scrapping the fight for 1 job for 1 patch (which I'd agree), or he's somehow fine with the idea that BLM is just as useless as it can be on this fight.

Anyway, I was just thinking about that

[Llugen]

They did specifically admit that BLMs would have trouble in unending coil, but that sounded more like a death sentence than an acknowledgement of there being an issue with balance.

[Remedi]

Even veteran players can be wrong, some ppl thought that heavensfall towers were a stupid RNG gate while in reality the answer was under everyone's nose.
Besides yoshida did say that they knew BLM would've had hard times with how the battle was working out, but as some ppl have said in other threads eventually you start stopping losing uptime on most phases and when you consider the average time you need to clear the fight if you are not in the world first group you can do pretty much what you want you'll get there as long as your skill allows it.

Bu in all honesty even if BLM had a easier time with mechanics, there's no way they could be as strong as SMN in the fight or any job that multidots.
Now it's true the multidot phase is only a small fraction of the fight, but since you need to defeat it within 2 secs of the death of the first one, beign able to drop down the 2 bosses at the same time it has a very high value at least in my opinion.

I do agree with them when they said that some fights will make some classes shine more and frankly that's good and true, honestly most fights are very similar in FFXIV and they could use some variations here and there

[Sylvain]

I didn't know it as 2sec, god this is awefully short
Why would you want a BLM here, a big crit at the wrong time can possibly ruin it

[Remedi]

I think LaylaBell said it was 2 secs maybe it's more but the big crits of BLM are actually in line with everyone else you might want to be scared of SAM direct hit crit tbh

[Llugen]

I wish they'd give us a developer's blog update on it like they sometimes do. That'd be swell. I'm so antsy about the changes right now. Sigh.

Interview with World First team for unending coil:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._dev_team_and/


"Black mages will have adjustments in patch 4.2, so they want BLM mains to wait a little longer. They are also developing a totally new content that can be played casually."



Wish I knew what this meant.

[EllieShadeflare]

"Black mages will have adjustments in patch 4.2, so they want BLM mains to wait a little longer. They are also developing a totally new content that can be played casually."

Wish I knew what this meant.

If I were to hazard a guess, I think they're referring to Eureka for the "casually played" content. But that's wild mass guessing on my part.