Tank dps harrasment

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The reason I said I had such a feeling was because you are getting so defensive on the topic, though that may have to do with my reading of your text but it does seem to carry a hostile tone. I am not asking you to change how you view parser's, and I did not mean to say that your experiences as a whole are silly, what I should have said that it is disingenuous for you to feel as if someone that has faced such abuse is blowing how they felt out of proportion. You may feel as if I am wasting my time, but I do not since your position undermines those that have been harassed in our community. Since as a community the frequency of players getting harassed should not matter, the fact that it does happen should be enough for us as a community to band together to try and alleviate it as much as humanly possible. As I have stated numerous times, those of us that pvp have gone through harassment claims. I personally hardly ever saw people being toxic in pvp, still I never doubted the frequency or felt as if it may be been blown out of proportion. Since I do not know how a certain interaction may effect another person. What is a non issue for me may not be the same for another.

I mean you do have to see how having a position that undermines another persons issue is disingenuous. While far from the same subject, that is like me telling a friend that is feeling sexual harnessed, meh that rarely happens in-game you are blowing it out of proportion--I did tell them that, that did not go off very well. While the latter is clearly leaps and bounds more pertinent, still a cause of harassment that from my perspective rarely happens.

Making FFlogs opt in accomplishes nothing. Those who care about parsing will ask for your logs and kick should you decline. SE doesn't care if a site maths out the information readily available in battle logs. They only care if it's used to ridicule players, thus the "keep it to yourself" policy. Bluntly stated, this sounds like you're just wanting to cultivate a silly safe space because some people can't handle they're on the bottom. The amount of actual in-game ridicule is rare. It only gets overstated here due to some people's dislike for FFlogs.

At the very least if someone is asked for logs before joining the group they will now before hand what kind of group they are getting into, instead of being told at the gate like the OP that they are shit and GFTO. Since if it is opt-in they could not just look up the persons name to see if they have log, said the person in question will know to avoid that group all together without having their bubble popped. Though if they start to poke the bear and try to join said group without logs and under perform then at that point idk what to say. While harassment should be taken seriously there is a limit to a person patients and I get that.

While not in that post in others I have said that such a fix would not solve much of anything, such as the removal of chat from pvp, but at the very least it offers some protection. Which is more then what is offered now. You are right though nothing we can do as a whole will eliminate such behavior just like the how the removal of chat from pvp really did not solve much of anything, instead it simply made it less apparent, which is sometimes enough to keep the willfully ignorant at peace.

I am just basing this off of what I have seen happen to friends and guild mates and what I have done to players. I am impatient person and at times let my emotions get the better of me and become a toxic prick. I do not know if I am trying to create a safe space, but maybe a space where the willfully ignorant can retain their ignorance and enjoy the game. I guess that is a safe space. RIP really did not go in wanting to create a safe space, just wanted to point out that this does happen to plays, and to some players fairly often.

I guess the short of it is what I have been trying to say this whole time is that harassment is harassment, and no matter the frequency it should be taken seriously no matter on the subject or amount effected. Ignoring the issues because it may be impossible to solve just does not seem fair. From a personal perspective I do not agree with the chat removal from pvp, and in my time playing I rarely ever saw people being toxic, competitive yeah though that is riddled with bias. Still I respect SE for taking a stand and listening to the concerns of those that had them, no matter how small the sample size was.