Tank dps harrasment

[LalaRu]

No? It's publicly available information

Wrong on many levels. That data is private within the party.

Anyone in your groups or even remotely close to you in the game cans see the data that's aggregated by parsers and uploaded to FFLogs.

Because that data was uploaded without my consent, doesn't make it free to all.

[dotsforlife]

Wrong on many levels. That data is private within the party.

Because that data was uploaded without my consent, doesn't make it free to all.

The data isn't private once it's uploaded. If don't want people to see trash tier numbers then set yours to private. It's that simple.

[Miste]

Because that data was uploaded without my consent, doesn't make it free to all.

If we want to get into technical and legal things here....FFlogs doesn't need "your" consent. They need SE's consent since all of FFXIV's data including your character belongs to SE, not you.

Nothing to do with FFXIV needs "your" consent since you do not own anything to do with FFXIV. You simply pay subscription in order to be allowed to access and use SE's intellectual property. Your subscription does not entitle you to claim ownership of anything in FFXIV and this includes your character and any data related to your character. Therefore your personal consent is not necessary at all.

[Taika]

Wrong on many levels. That data is private within the party.

How is it different from someone uploading screenshots of your party chat, screenshots of their battle logs including your numbers, screenshots of their character with your character in it, or a gameplay video of a fight including your character? How about someone streaming while they're playing Rabanastre, also showing (either accidentally or on purpose) your characters gameplay or something you perhaps say in chat?

[jameseoakes]

How is it different from someone uploading screenshots of your party chat, screenshots of their battle logs including your numbers, screenshots of their character with your character in it, or a gameplay video of a fight including your character? How about someone streaming while they're playing Rabanastre, also showing (either accidentally or on purpose) your characters gameplay or something you perhaps say in chat?

Pretty much every stream I've seen has chat covered up, same with screenshots.

[Taika]

Pretty much every stream I've seen has chat covered up, same with screenshots.

And? What if it wouldn't be? Wouldn't make it against any rules or laws, apart from maybe specific rules on certain publication platforms (such as these forums: you can't publish other people's character names here). But there's nothing to prevent me from creating a site where I post screenshots of random party chats or battle logs.

[akaneakki]

Wrong on many levels. That data is private within the party.

Because that data was uploaded without my consent, doesn't make it free to all.

So instead of improving you want to people not to see how you perform which they will eventually and you dont perform the way they want you to then what? Going to sit back and let them do it for You?

[ElHeggunte]

Wrong on many levels. That data is private within the party.

It isn't private though. Anything that gets written to the battle log can be seen by anyone else around you, whether they're in your group or not (and did you know that everything printed to the logs is also saved locally on each machine's HDD?):

Example 1: Say we're in a 24-man raid together, but you're in Group A and I'm in Group B. I could still look at my battle log and see everything you do. As in, I can use my eyeballs and don't require a parser to see things like what buffs you used, what attacks you performed, how much damage they did, whether or not they crit, etc. That's how most parsers work in the first place: by reading the battle log and then displaying the information in a way that's easier to understand (but could still be done by hand if you had pen, paper, and too much free time).

Example 2: Let's say you're out in the world fighting a Hunt mob. I happen to walk by your group on my way to do something unrelated. Guess what? I could still look at my battle log and see everything that you're doing even though I'm not in your party or engaged with the same mob.

If you're grouped with other people or even remotely close enough to them that your information gets printed to their log, your information is not private and they don't require your permission to upload it or do whatever else they want with it.

Because that data was uploaded without my consent, doesn't make it free to all.

Whether or not you want them to upload it is irrelevant because you don't get to claim sole ownership over something that was available to the public the moment it got written to everyone else's battle log.