In Regard to Housing in Patch 4.1

[Alleo]

If you would be so kind as to quantify your response with some hard data, I'd sincerely appreciate it. Specifically, I need an accurate count of daily active players, a list of some "other games" that can "do that fine", and an understanding of how fully instanced housing can populate for people who don't own said house, yet still have the permission to use it, when the owner is not online. Thanks in advance!

There is a census going on, its unofficial but those are the only numbers we got because SE does not like to share them. Other games that are using housing quite fine are Rift or Wildstar. In Rift you can own every single key for an dimension and have right up to 20 active ones. There are people that used the biggest dimension to recreate the Titanic. I was once visiting one where somebody created a whole village. Its unbelievable how massive and good their housing system is and this is a F2P game. FF14 is one of the biggest P2P games out there and yet somehow they are not able to provide us with at least basic housing for everyone. (Even the really small apartments are limited) I dare to say that this is bad for such a game.

Well instanced housing would simply not exist until someone goes into it. In Rift you can easily visit all those dimensions if they people allow it. So if you have someone else using it, the house will simply come into existence when that person clicks onto the thing where you can port to it. So its still quite possible to have parties in such houses.

[LIST][*]I think a housing reset is needed, and everyone gets thier gil refunded and thier housing items put on storage.

Why is that in any way a good solution? :/ All that it does is taking away all the work that people did with their houses (getting rid of them would also mean that every single FC ship would be destroyed..) and just start with the exact same problem again..only that you will have lots and lots of very pissed off customers too..I will say it right here, if they ever would do something like that (and not just relocate private houses to instanced plots) I would just quit the game. You do not do something like that and expect your playerbase to be anything but angry. This would probably create a big amount of hate, rage and negative press..Also even if you then say that only one 1 house per person you will still not have enough for everyone because some servers would probably not even have enough for all FCs...not even counting all those personal house owners.

They need to implement a restriction for the amount of houses and on top of that make a distinct rule about house selling in the ToS. This way everyone will know that this is against the rules. (Also those sellers should be banned from the game) But in the end a personal instanced housing is the only way to solve this..or they truly need dynamical wards but they also will never be enough because a lot of people simply want mansions and not small ones.

I feel for FC's you should have more than 10 members to own a house. I been seeing FC's made that only have one person with the sole purpose of getting a house to flip. There are so many solutions hopefully there is one that can benefit everyone. I have 1 house I would like to keep it that way lol! No resets please, I took a lot of time and effort in decorating my house XD.

So it would be allowed to own a house as a single person if its personal but if you want to lead a small FC with only friends you would be punished for it and could never use all the functions that such a FC house has? That sounds quite unfair.

[Penthea]

Why is that in any way a good solution? :/ All that it does is taking away all the work that people did with their houses (getting rid of them would also mean that every single FC ship would be destroyed..) and just start with the exact same problem again..only that you will have lots and lots of very pissed off customers too..I will say it right here, if they ever would do something like that I would just quit the game.

Resetting housing is a ludicrous suggestion. Punishing the entire housing community because of the actions of a few is a great way to lose subscriptions. It's one thing to reduce the amount of houses an account can have, it's another thing altogether to completely erase all trace of ownership on every house when it's possible the player did absolutely nothing that could be viewed as rule breaking, an exploit or taking advantage of an oversight. All this would achieve is an immensely upgraded version of the disastrous Shirogane launch, and a huge amount of cancelled subscriptions. The only thing worse than this is completely taking housing out of the game.

However that player did make one excellent point:

Outdoor furnishing should be usable indoors, in case you decide to opt in for an apartment instead.

I won't deny it would look very strange, but if this means apartment owners could finally crossplant, then I'm all for it.

[AliceKaye]

Hoping we get an update from Yoshida and team soon... Figured I'd use this opportunity to bump the thread. Come on Yoshi! We're looking forward to it!

[Khanscott]

Hoping we get an update from Yoshida and team soon... Figured I'd use this opportunity to bump the thread. Come on Yoshi! We're looking forward to it!

He has until the beginning of January to unleash his master plan upon the servers. Patience, let the Yoshida come to you...

:3c

[Acilith]

You get one house per account. Allow alts to share housing and resources. I really don't understand why there is such a draconian restriction on friending and sharing between your own characters.

I assume it has to do with why we can't friends list ourselves, or mail ourselves things. Coding issues, I guess?

[Jxnibbles]

Not housing specifically but they really need to overhaul gardening.

One patch per small, two for a med, three for a large is extremely limiting especially when crossbreeding.. Same thing with seeds and soil.

Some players own multiple houses for gardening specifically. If they allow me to get the exact amount of gil i spent on my plots returned to me and allow me to garden without the need of a house I would actually relinquish my houses.

Nah lets have limited houses, limited gardens, limited airships, zero acess to player owned music outside a house, Limted space for fc items ect.

[NaoTenbe]

Hey nibbles?
If gardening and airships were unlimited to how you'd like them, then the items that you're gardening or airshipping FOR, would be devalued.

[Jxnibbles]

Hey nibbles?
If gardening and airships were unlimited to how you'd like them, then the items that you're gardening or airshipping FOR, would be devalued.

I never said unlimited anywhere... I simply said it was extremely limited, which is why some of us own more than one plot.

[Dragonrage53]

Well if SE unchained gardening from housing plots and allowed something like instanced greenhouse plots that varied in size, and amount of planting beds based on how much gil was spent im pretty sure a lot of gardeners would gladly relenquish their houses once they get setup in their new gardening area. To be clear i don't want a housing plot im basically happy with the apartment (I still wish it was bigger or had 2 rooms). But if I just had reasonable access to say 3-6 gardening plots that were mine and mine alone along with the apartment I would be a very happy camper.

[Jxnibbles]

Snip.

This. I would even be okay with Free companies with 8+ members using my plots they could touch the music, decorate do w/e they want as long as my garden is left alone. I'll even be grateful if in return square said your plants will always be watered if a active free company is using your plots.