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    Player Abelfei's Avatar
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    Ok, I have been pretty vocal with people in regards to the housing issues and defending the system for the most part, so here is the main thing I would like to see changed possibly and I think it would help. Again, if others have mentioned this I have not seen it. How about when players or FC's relinquish or relocate, they get the original cost back in full, or relocating the entire purchase goes towards the new plot? This way no one would ever feel like they lost gil or wasted time, and wouldn't be forced to sell to someone before game fee just to recoup some gil. Any thoughts about this? Seems way easier than most fixes. Do this and add more wards. Also, then the plot would still be up for grabs naturally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelfei View Post
    How about when players or FC's relinquish or relocate, they get the original cost back in full, or relocating the entire purchase goes towards the new plot? This way no one would ever feel like they lost gil or wasted time, and wouldn't be forced to sell to someone before game fee just to recoup some gil. Any thoughts about this?
    I honestly think that would probably be even worse. People would just continue to try and sell their houses AND get paid when they transfer/relinquished. Housing is also supposed to be a gil sink and it's bad enough they now give back 80% for demolitions, but giving back the full cost would completely remove this much needed gil sink. We have many things that add money into the economy, but very few actually taking money back out.
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    Yes I could see that potentially. To me it sounds like you're somewhat ok with they way housing is setup then? I agree with the gil going in and out, and that's why i think overpaying for housing is NBD, cause what else should you be spending your hundreds of millions of gil on?
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    The way I see in this system to defend is very slim and it shows no justification in people hogging houses and selling it for ridiculous prices. If people don't want to use that house, then just let people have who really want it.

    If you want to sell it only for resale price to have it back, i'll understand. But to sell it for 200-500m on a large, then 30-50 for small and 80-150m for medium is like definitely showing the way of people being more greedier than it needs to. That's why housing system in this cannot be defended whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldotsk View Post
    The way I see in this system to defend is very slim and it shows no justification in people hogging houses and selling it for ridiculous prices. If people don't want to use that house, then just let people have who really want it.

    If you want to sell it only for resale price to have it back, i'll understand. But to sell it for 200-500m on a large, then 30-50 for small and 80-150m for medium is like definitely showing the way of people being more greedier than it needs to. That's why housing system in this cannot be defended whatsoever.
    Just because they don't use it doesn't mean they don't want it. And maybe they are using it, just differently than most would. There are tons of ppl using houses that people think aren't getting used. JB there isn't 10 trees and ponds in the yard doesn't mean they aren't using it. If the people " who really wanted " houses wanted them as bad as you thiunk, they'd have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelfei View Post
    Just because they don't use it doesn't mean they don't want it. And maybe they are using it, just differently than most would. There are tons of ppl using houses that people think aren't getting used. JB there isn't 10 trees and ponds in the yard doesn't mean they aren't using it. If the people " who really wanted " houses wanted them as bad as you thiunk, they'd have one.
    Unless you are one of those people who just sympathizes others for selling houses with expensive prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldotsk View Post
    Unless you are one of those people who just sympathizes others for selling houses with expensive prices.
    He already told us that he got his two houses with "hard" work by having his friends sell them to him (or give them up for him). So somehow since he could get them that way its somehow easy enough for everyone else to get it if they want it even though this is simply impossible because even if only those that want a house buy one you will still have that limit.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Wanting and deserving are 2 different things. Just wishing for them and wanting one given one to you doesn't entitle a player to have one. Is is that hard to accept that some of this stuff isn't going to be easily obtained? And yes I did work " hard ". I farmed gil for 4-5 hours a day for months. And yes I did buy from friends. One upgraded his small FC in Goblet, and the other transferred Servers, and I had obtained my first FC through camping auto demos.Why should everyone deserve a house? It's a luxury in this game, shouldn't it be earned? I know plenty of people on every server upgrading, and gil can be farmed by the millions quickly, so yea if you don't have a house, you'e not trying hard enough, and I stand by that, while you guys hide behind the housing problem for your woes. " Don't hate the player, hate the game." comes to mind with housing. There are tons of smalls every day being sold on every server for a few million, which isn't a flip. Most just want their money back, so yes while youre paying " double the SE fee " No one is making money. If you're constantly looking and asking around and stay in the " housing pipeline ", you can find one quickly, so yes to answer you, if it's that easy for me, it should be that easy for anyone else. I am not special in any way, shape or form in regards to how I obtained my houses.
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    Last edited by Abelfei; 10-27-2017 at 09:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldotsk View Post
    Unless you are one of those people who just sympathizes others for selling houses with expensive prices.
    While I wouldn't call it sympathy for flippers, their existence beats the alternative - only people who play the 4am Tuesday login lottery having houses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    While I wouldn't call it sympathy for flippers, their existence beats the alternative - only people who play the 4am Tuesday login lottery having houses.
    That is completely false. The auto demos are not active, and when they are, they auto demo every hour on the hour. Not once a week.
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