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    Player
    Scardon's Avatar
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    Neiloch Forever
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Abelfei View Post
    If the people " who really wanted " houses wanted them as bad as you thiunk, they'd have one.
    What? Have you not been paying attention? Thats exactly the problem. People want them but since they are finite they can't get them. Otherwise you are saying there is 100% enough houses to go around for people "who really wanted" them which isn't the case. FYI people can "really want them" without having the means to pay for them from a house flipper or checking the districts every hour, on the hour for most of the day. That's like saying if people really didn't want to have cancer they would just find a cure. These replies continue to show how far removed you are from the reality of the situation and your complete lack of ability to utilize empathy.
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    Abel Fei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scardon View Post
    That's like saying if people really didn't want to have cancer they would just find a cure.
    Wow, really? You're comparing obtaining a virtual house in an MMO video game vs. one of the worst diseases in the history of the human race, if not the worst? And you think I am far removed from the situation? If you have the gil, buy a house, it IS that simple. If you don't have the gil, then you probably shouldn't be complaining about housing. But hey, what do I know, apparently this problem is as big as cancer.
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    Elaris Strywin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelfei View Post
    Wow, really? You're comparing obtaining a virtual house in an MMO video game vs. one of the worst diseases in the history of the human race, if not the worst? And you think I am far removed from the situation? If you have the gil, buy a house, it IS that simple. If you don't have the gil, then you probably shouldn't be complaining about housing. But hey, what do I know, apparently this problem is as big as cancer.
    Okay we get it, you like how exclusive housing is because you have one. Congrats on grinding so hard btw, nobody has ever grinded for gil as hard as you. 4-5 hours a day for months? how did you even manage!!! I still stand by what I said earlier, SE please let Abelfei be the one to distribute housing in the future.
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    Neiloch Forever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelfei View Post
    Wow, really? You're comparing obtaining a virtual house in an MMO video game vs. one of the worst diseases in the history of the human race, if not the worst? And you think I am far removed from the situation? If you have the gil, buy a house, it IS that simple. If you don't have the gil, then you probably shouldn't be complaining about housing. But hey, what do I know, apparently this problem is as big as cancer.
    You are being purposely obtuse. Im pointing out that simply having the will to do something doesn't make it possible. Don't have any money? Just have more money if you really want it. Want a car that doesn't exist any more? Well if you REALLY wanted it you would just go get it. Want to clear all the content in the game solo? You'd just solo it right now if you REALLY wanted it. etc etc. When it comes to dealing with something finite, the will to do it is step one of countless steps if its possible at all.

    Your 'self help book' solution to housing isn't practical.

    "If you have the gil, buy a house it IS that simple." Oh cool then, just show me the empty plot on my server and I'll go buy it. I have have more than enough for empty large plot. I mean its just that simple, right? Since participating in house flipping is specifically prohibited I have no intention of breaking the rules just because i could get away with it.
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    Last edited by Scardon; 10-28-2017 at 06:01 AM.

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    Trienne Bearheart
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    Please implement one priuvate houose across accounts per server

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    We’ve also received considerable feedback as to how they should be added, and we will be making an announcement outlining the number of new wards and how they will be sold.
    'The solution should be simple enough. beyond getting more plots and wards .. make private housing sharable and usable between all characters on an account on the same server
    thus making it so players cannot buy multiple privates one per alt character as it is now.
    existing accounts that have multiple houses, with 4.2 would have to choose their primary private residence and choose which ones they would loose at login
    ( demolish timer would start giving them sometime to move out after which they would get a refund for plot and plot would be vacant.)

    this would help mitigate situations where players pretty much own a whole section of an ward,,, and make a more fair housing policy curbing housing herders.
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    Last edited by Trienne; 11-01-2017 at 01:11 PM.

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    Titor Jaraba
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    It makes me laugh when people think that those who got a house are hackers or rmt buyers or reselling lords. Yeah, I’m sure that’s the type of people who bought it... definitely not legit players that got lucky in queues. Whatever helps fuel the bitterness I guess.
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    What worries me is the response seems to indicate they will still be limited but simply handed out differently. Any auction system will still allow the super rich an advantage, be it through bidding very high or bidding on multiple plots at once. One per account, per server is more than reasonable, but I don't expect it to be done retroactively. Create any new wards where they can only be purchased if you are homeless on that server and account as well as restricting you from buying a plot on the 'regular' wards if you do.

    It really comes down to this: Every subscriber is helping pay for this part of the game but no matter how much they want to many players CAN'T utilize it. Its not like high end raids or other content where they are simply opting out, players with more than enough gil to buy a plot and a house, can't. The only equivalent would be something like "Well 80 players already cleared the savage raids so no one else can play them on this server indefinitely."
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Reported them again tonight just as they were selling a plot. Talking to a gm, managed to snag a picture (cut out to hide location/report info):
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    Lele Inoch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    Reported them again tonight just as they were selling a plot. Talking to a gm, managed to snag a picture (cut out to hide location/report info):
    This has been my point everytime someone says its not allowed to resell. I'm gonna save this post for sure lol.
    I have never argued that profit is allowed but the whole reselling of a plot is and will remain the same until they change the system in 4.2 (if that even will happen).
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    Julianna Arrisit
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    This has been my point everytime someone says its not allowed to resell. I'm gonna save this post for sure lol.
    (if that even will happen).

    This is my point when I say you can't resell any part of it for any gil. You can give your house to someone.You can't sell the rights to demolish your house to a possible buyer, to take their gil, then let them buy the plot outright from the placard, while you line your pockets for a few million gil This GM doesn't make sense. He contradicts himself. You can't resell the actual house on the property. The game is not designed currently for you to do so. You first need to relinquish it, turn it back into a empty plot and then walk away to turn over ownership and not after you exploit the person into paying you to so. Thank you for this nice image so I could save it and question it to support and point out what ToS actually states about exploiting a system of the game for profit.
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