[Stormblood] [Dragoon Rotation] COME ON AND SLAM

[PheonixCain]

Not necessarily. Actually, in a ST fight like v1 or v2 it's probably better to activate it around 70 seconds like in 4.0 to benefit from b4b. In other instances it really depends on adds phases. Now we can pretty much decide exactly when we want to activate lotd without having to sacrifice eyes. This is good.
Funny thing is, they probably made drg more complex because eyes/geirskogul management is much less straightforward now.

i tried to look for some replays on fflog after the 4.1 changes, and i did found that the top dps drgs are still doing it like u said, around 70s like in 4.0, though i was looking at specifically v4s, inbetween boss jumping away and changing location and stuff, it seems activating LOTD right after 2nd jump is not such a good idea

[kyrios91]

Soo can anyone help me if whether the Shinryuu Lance is better than the Aug. LA Halberd? The stats are really good (270 crit 189 dhit) despite losing 1 DMG and 8 STR and Det + Sks which are not our main stats.

[Lastelli]

i tried to look for some replays on fflog after the 4.1 changes, and i did found that the top dps drgs are still doing it like u said, around 70s like in 4.0, though i was looking at specifically v4s, inbetween boss jumping away and changing location and stuff, it seems activating LOTD right after 2nd jump is not such a good idea

Yes. Especially in Shinryu ex, activating lotd right after the second jump is a terrible idea. But the same is true for a lot of other fights. In V1 and V2 you don't want to do it as well. Not sure about V3 and V4, gotta experiment a little there.

[aleph_null]

Soo can anyone help me if whether the Shinryuu Lance is better than the Aug. LA Halberd? The stats are really good (270 crit 189 dhit) despite losing 1 DMG and 8 STR and Det + Sks which are not our main stats.

Even if it's worse it won't be by much I'd imagine. You should probably spend your tomestones on something else while waiting for the o4s spear and use shinryu spear for the moment.

[kyrios91]

Well I already have the augmented one months ago. I got the shinryuu spear and kinda enticed because it has crit and dhit compared to det and sks. I asked people in reddit and they said even if the LA one has worse sub-stats it should be the better one since it has higher weapon damage and STR.

[Subucnimorning]

Yes. Especially in Shinryu ex, activating lotd right after the second jump is a terrible idea. But the same is true for a lot of other fights. In V1 and V2 you don't want to do it as well. Not sure about V3 and V4, gotta experiment a little there.

Terrible idea because it makes bfb come up at an awkward time?

[Lastelli]

Terrible idea because it makes bfb come up at an awkward time?

In shinryu ex you can hit the tail with geirskogul and 1 nastrond if you delay your first lotd window. Also, you can hit the heart (and shinryu) with the other 2 nastronds. So you basically use 6 nastronds in your first lord window.

[Subucnimorning]

In shinryu ex you can hit the tail with geirskogul and 1 nastrond if you delay your first lotd window. Also, you can hit the heart (and shinryu) with the other 2 nastronds. So you basically use 6 nastronds in your first lord window.

Ok makes sense

When it comes to optimizing on o1s/o2s though you are delaying your first lotd phase to help line it up with bfb though yeah?

[Lastelli]

Ok makes sense

When it comes to optimizing on o1s/o2s though you are delaying your first lotd phase to help line it up with bfb though yeah?

Correct. By delaying lotd smartly you can line up most nastronds with b4b and dragon sight.

[Jonnycbad]

Took a long break, wondering what the rotation is now that you only need 3 Eyes to get LoTD and GK reduction to 30s. Wondering if its better to just burn out GK and Jumps super early in the rotation so that by the time Jump and GK come back off CD, you're ready to enter LotD for your third dragon eye.