Dear Healers who don't DPS

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This thread is powered by a energizer battery.

The thread is powered by people jumping to different topics all the time. One is talking about the goal of an class in theory, others are talking about inexpierienced healers and then someone comes in with "but... but... the pure healers. They are not ok, right?" (which 97% of people agree with, including me). Add silly arguments to that and then you have an thread, which will never end.

The fact that Tridus had to bring up an all flash PLD to try to get this point across is completely insane.

This argument is bad, because we discussed what the main job of an class is and this ofc should be done correctly.

• So an tank who uses one button and does flash, is worse than an tank who does the aggro combo, because the second does dmg aswell, while generate aggro. There is no downside to it by game design.
• An healer who does no aoe or instant heals and only uses vita to heal a group up, maybe letting people die is worse than an healer using his kit efficiently and keeping everyone alive
• An dd not using aoe skills, when there are 10000000 mobs is worse, because with one button he does much, much less dmg then using the one gcd doing something efficiently and use aoe skills

TL;DR There is an clear difference between doing your main job and doing your main task very unefficiently

Yeah agree with you here, bosses you -might- not be able to only use Flash, but with some of the DPS you come across in DF doing very low potential....its safe to say you might even be able to do it on bosses sometimes as well and I think the main idea is that the potential is still there to do exactly 0 DPS on a PLD if you decided to and it is one of the sticking points about that "It's not my role so I shouldn't have to" argument :/

You can't compare classes like that, because they are different by game design. If you would create this thread in the tank forum, you wouldn't create an thread saying "dear tanks, who don't dps" (there is no downside to use aggro combo, compared to flash in boss fights), but an thread "dear tanks, who are in tank stance all the time". (Would love to see how this goes...) The latter has an downside, since you risk to be not able to do your main task at hand, while playing more efficiently, since tanking out of tank stance is an dmg gain. Healers are still, despite the removal of cleric stance in an similar situations and risk letting people die, depending on how much you are willing to risk/push it, in order to do dmg.